If it is not Revival then what is it??

[berkeley]

is that a seriouis ?????

revival- restore the saints that are twice dead and plucked up by the roots

EVANGELISM- reaching the lost

Everyone is called to be a lower-case evangelist, as in a lower-case "e"

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Edward Anglin

The word revival applies to the unsaved as well. We were DEAD IN SIN, but he raised (resurrected) us to a new life.
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salvation is not RE vival (coming back to life) it is vival (coming alive for the first time). A sinner has not been previously alive spiritually so salvation would be life from the dead, not a return to a life that had been experienced before.

[Hoovie]

Very good. This causes me to rethink what the word should mean to us today.

We are revived unto life, through Christ, from the death we inherited through the sin of Adam.

Originally Posted by Edward Anglin

The word revival applies to the unsaved as well. We were DEAD IN SIN, but he raised (resurrected) us to a new life.

Ephesians 2

And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved).

And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Sam

salvation is not RE vival (coming back to life) it is vival (coming alive for the first time). A sinner has not been previously alive spiritually so salvation would be life from the dead, not a return to a life that had been experienced before.

But in the broader sense though, mankind is brought into right standing - that which was lost in the garden.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

But in the broader sense though, mankind is brought into right standing - that which was lost in the garden.

so, in that case, our standing with God has been revived, renewed, restored.

OK, I need to look at revival in a broader picture

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Sam

so, in that case, our standing with God has been revived, renewed, restored.

OK, I need to look at revival in a broader picture

I guess it could be said the ultimate revival will be the translation of the saints.

[EA]

Originally Posted by Sam

salvation is not RE vival (coming back to life) it is vival (coming alive for the first time). A sinner has not been previously alive spiritually so salvation would be life from the dead, not a return to a life that had been experienced before.

Brother, to truly understand my last post you will have to think bigger. And I don't say that as an insult.

Mankind had a right relationship with God that was severed by sin. The Fall of Man brought about spiritual death (separation from God). The Gospel (what Jesus did) brings us BACK TO LIFE. In essence, the relationship we were intended to enjoy is REVIVED because of the substitutionary death of Jesus Christ.

We are born AGAIN.

Propitiation. Justification. Reconciliation. Sanctification.

These words are REVIVAL terms.

We were dead in sin, but he has raised us up. We have been resurrected by His work on Calvary.

Hallelujah!

Now THAT is revival!

[Innocuous]

When I was at Bro. Haney's church we called the evangelistic events "crusades". It sounded good at the time, but now that I'm a little more knowledgable of church history I'm not sure that's a good term to use, especially if you're trying to reach Muslims.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Innocuous

When I was at Bro. Haney's church we called the evangelistic events "crusades". It sounded good at the time, but now that I'm a little more knowledgable of church history I'm not sure that's a good term to use, especially if you're trying to reach Muslims.

I thought the very same thing! lol Crusades? A bloody fight slaying unbelievers? uhhhh.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Brother Blume,
I don't understand your post.

I Peter 1:7 "That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:"

II Cor. 8:2 "How that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded unto the riches of their liberality."


I Peter 4:12 "Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

2 Cor 1: 8 "For we would not, brethren, have you ignorant of our trouble which came to us in Asia, that we were pressed out of measure, above strength, insomuch that we despaired even of life:"

Phillipians 3:8 "Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,"

Acts 18:23 "And after he had spent some time there, he departed, and went over all the country of Galatia and Phrygia in order, strengthening (reestablish) all the disciples."

Acts 15:41 "And he went through Syria and Cilicia, confirming (strengthening) the churches."

I would always think there will be times when the church needs to be strengthened, reestablished or revived.

I agree there's times when the church needs reviving. But "revivals" are often used to describe times in saving the lost and gaining new members.

Revivals that are focused on reviving the saints are TRUE "revivals". But that is not what "revival" is used for as a term, generally.