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01-27-2009, 12:55 PM
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Re: Should government regulate marriage??
The government should stay out of all things dealing with the church and the church needs to stay out of the government. However if we vote our morals and others did too then there would be no need for the government to mess with marriage. It would stay between a man and a women IF we were to vote our morals. Just think if this government and country was ran by muslims.
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01-27-2009, 12:58 PM
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Re: Should government regulate marriage??
Yes government should. The whole reason why government had laws in the first place was to encourage marriage and having children by giving tax incentives etc etc...it forms the basis of a stable society.
Sadly though we have totally lost the meaning of that notion. We need to fix what is damaged and return to the values of a solid family unit
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01-27-2009, 01:03 PM
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Re: Should government regulate marriage??
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
When did it become a duty of government to legislate morality beyond that which infringes upon the rights of others?
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Homosexual behavior is harmful to society in many ways and has a high incidence of leading to pedophilia.
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01-27-2009, 01:09 PM
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Re: Should government regulate marriage??
Does homosexuality damage the fabric of our society? Or rather does being permissive towards such damage the fabric of ouir society? What about the permissiveness that is invasive in Media or schools? How has that damaged our society if any at all?
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01-27-2009, 01:11 PM
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Re: Should government regulate marriage??
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Does homosexuality damage the fabric of our society? Or rather does being permissive towards such damage the fabric of ouir society? What about the permissiveness that is invasive in Media or schools? How has that damaged our society if any at all?
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Maybe or not - you would need to further define permissiveness.
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01-27-2009, 01:16 PM
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Tired of it.
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Re: Should government regulate marriage??
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Homosexual behavior is harmful to society in many ways and has a high incidence of leading to pedophilia.
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Would like to see some supporting evidence for that claim....
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01-27-2009, 01:19 PM
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Re: Should government regulate marriage??
In the state of Ohio a couple has to get a "marriage license" to get married. The ceremony is to be performed by someone who has been authorized by the state to solemnize marriages and a form has to be filed within so many days after the marriage has taken place so it is properly recorded. I can legally solemnize marriages in the State of Ohio but I have never done any. In order to obtain that status I had to file an application with the State Secretary of State and include a copy of my ordination/license and a fee. I have a document, signed by the Secretary of State, giving me that authorization and limiting that authorization to as long as I remain affiliated with the organization I was in when I applied. That certificate can be framed and I am supposed to show it to anyone who asks to see it. I imagine this requirement varies from state to state.
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01-27-2009, 01:34 PM
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Re: Should government regulate marriage??
The argument being made is about morality and religious ethics.
I say the government should regulate it for financial reasons. As its been stated they want this recognitions for tax purposes. I believe it should be regulated in order to keep the cost of social programs at a minimum. If you want a good picture of what happens when we allow social programs to be instituted for every one who feels they have social rights then look at California. Can you say "bankrupt".
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01-27-2009, 01:34 PM
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Re: Should government regulate marriage??
I'm just saying that ANYone can have some kind of religious ceremony and create a lasting commitment or relationship. I piece of paper doesn't do that. And the law doesn't prohibit that.
So the question is, should the government grant legal and monetary benefits to any union other than that of a man and woman. It really has nothing to do with regulating "marriage", in that they are preventing consensual relationships between adults.
The problem is, when you get into legalities, what is the premise for marriage based on? It's a religious institution. So should the government have any say in it? No.
Should the government have a say in criminal activities, such as the abuse of a minor child being forced into a marriage, e.g., sexual relationship? Of course.
Just rambling...I'm not sure I have this one figured out completely. I do know that SOMEtimes in the midst of campaigning for government imposed morality, we can end up biting our own behinds. Some freedoms that allow others certain rights are the same freedoms that pertain to our religious freedoms, and we need to be careful where we tread.
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01-27-2009, 01:41 PM
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Re: Should government regulate marriage??
Marriage (Adam & Eve style) is how our species reproduces. Studies showing the importance of a stable home life are too numerous to even begin to cite.
If someone wants to "hook up" in an unconventional way in the privacy of their own closest then I am too busy to care. But what we do as a society (our "governments") should be to "promote the general welfare" and a mom & pop type marriage is the essential foundation.
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