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Old 03-03-2009, 01:58 PM
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Re: T.F. Tenney at the Journey (Mark Johnston's)

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T.F. Tenney is one minister who isn't bothered by what others think of him. He preached at Jentezen Franklin's church a couple years ago for Pentecost Sunday.
I dont know much about him.

What's his background?
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:01 PM
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Re: T.F. Tenney at the Journey (Mark Johnston's)

Jentezen is a Trinitarian--meaning on TBN and baptizes in titles with Jesus name in there too. He is a dynamic preacher. Think Anthony Mangun they are similar, but Jentezen does get as loud all the time.
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:01 PM
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Re: T.F. Tenney at the Journey (Mark Johnston's)

EA, does the facial hair thing bother you from a disobedience stand point?
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:08 PM
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I dont know much about him.

What's his background?
I don't know his denominal background, if any. I know in his book, Right People, Right Place, Right Time - Jentezen Franklin writes about the Manguns and Vesta in particular. He met them a few years ago and had some very good things to say about them.

I really enjoy JF's messages. Dynamic preacher.
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:14 PM
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Re: T.F. Tenney at the Journey (Mark Johnston's)

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for the most part this is one of several unenforced requirements/rules.

i think really the ONLY requirement that the UPCI is willing to "go-to-war-over"...is paying dues.
In the spring of 1957 I came to the Cincinnati area to spend the summer. Soon after arriving here I saw an ad in the newspaper that Bro. Gordon Magee was going to be speaking at the Full Gospel Church, which was organized after a split in 1945 off the UPC church here. The pastor of the Full Gospel Church was Bro. Joe David Sizemore. I'm not sure what organization he was in at the time, I think it was AMC (Apostolic Missionary Council) or he may have already been in the ALJC. I was staying with a family who attended the UPC church and when their son saw the ad he contacted his pastor who was the District Superintendent and he saw to it that the meeting was cancelled.

Another example I saw of this rule being invoked was in the early 1960's. I had stopped going to the UPC church in Cincinnati and was going to the ALJC church mentioned above. By that time the ALJC church was renamed the Carthage Appostolic Church. One of the men who attended the UPC church in Cincinnati lived in Ludlow, KY which was just across the river. He started a church in his neighborhood. Hs name was Paul Estep. At the time he started the church he was with the UPC and he had me preach his opening service. Since I was attending the UPC church in Cincinnati that was OK. I preached for him a couple more times while he was UPC and I was going to the Cincinnati Church. Later, in the early 1960's, this UPC pastor had a youth rally in a high school. I don't remember if the school was in Ludlow or one of the other little neighboring cities. Those cities all run together and it's hard to tell when one ends and the other begins. The pastor had a speaker from Dayton, OH who was in the ALJC. I guess this did not set right with a UPC pastor from Covington, KY (which was a neighboring city to Ludlow) and with a UPC pastor from Carrollton, KY which was about 40 miles away. Bro. Estep was notified that two UPC pastors had filed charges against him for having an ALJC pastor preach his youth rally. Bro. Estep did not go to the inquisition but turned in his license and joined the ALJC. I preached for him at his ALJC church after that but that was OK because I was going to an ALJC church also.
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:21 PM
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Re: T.F. Tenney at the Journey (Mark Johnston's)

Is there a little animosity between the ALJC and UPC? I don't really know many who are ALJC. I was raised UPC, now am independent (there's really no need for being joined to any ONE denomination which would limit involvement and fellowship with other oneness denominations), but I don't remember any trouble between the two.
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EA, does the facial hair thing bother you from a disobedience stand point?
Not at all.

There is no prohibition in the Bible. And there is no prohibition in the UPC's bylaws and Artcles of Faith.
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Not at all.

There is no prohibition in the Bible. And there is no prohibition in the UPC's bylaws and Artcles of Faith.
Interesting! It is a big NO NO where I live.

FTR: I agree with you on this.

My husband has a goatee and I LOVE IT. But he is not allowed to participate in any leadership roles (i.e. teach, choir, usher and so on) b/c of it. However at this time he is not interested in doing these things - for other reasons all together.

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Old 03-03-2009, 02:29 PM
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Re: T.F. Tenney at the Journey (Mark Johnston's)

Facial hair is not wrong...weren't homosexuals the ones that shaved in the Bible days?
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See thats were I have a problem is not letting someone participate on the platform or leadership roles over something that is not even biblical... smells cultish alittle I know many do not like that word on here so sorry if I affend
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