T.F. Tenney at the Journey (Mark Johnston's) - Page 5

edjen01 · #41 03-03-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by n david

Is there a little animosity between the ALJC and UPC? I don't really know many who are ALJC. I was raised UPC, now am independent (there's really no need for being joined to any ONE denomination which would limit involvement and fellowship with other oneness denominations), but I don't remember any trouble between the two.

there have been a few "statements" lobbed here and there...but no real war. I think in most areas....people see the value of having both churches.

Theophil · #42 03-03-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Facial hair is not wrong...weren't homosexuals the ones that shaved in the Bible days?

Oh no you didn't! :-)

KWSS1976 · #43 03-03-2009, 02:37 PM

I know my pastor we associate with the ALJC and he has bad mouthed the UPC churches in our area before on Sunday mornings I think the ALJC is not liking the direction the UPC is going..thats just my 2 cents I could really care less who likes who...

edjen01 · #44 03-03-2009, 02:45 PM

i've been around/fellowshipped both for all my life...as well as the PAW...and some other groups.

IMO...every church meets a need. there are some people who need/want a church/pastor who is very controlling....others need/want one who is not so controlling....etc...but I do not believe there is any need for any minister to "bash" another church.

Jack Shephard · #45 03-03-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Theophil

Oh no you didn't! :-)

Yup I done went there....

edjen01 · #46 03-03-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

See thats were I have a problem is not letting someone participate on the platform or leadership roles over something that is not even biblical... smells cultish alittle I know many do not like that word on here so sorry if I affend

if a church chooses to have certain rules....why is that "cultish"?

couldn't it just be opinion...or variety?

Jack Shephard · #47 03-03-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by edjen01

if a church chooses to have certain rules....why is that "cultish"?

couldn't it just be opinion...or variety?

IF it is taught in a way that 'if you don't do this then you are sinning' or as a requirement to attend/join then it crosses the line.

KWSS1976 · #48 03-03-2009, 03:01 PM

Well mabey cultish was a little hard but why have a rule that has nothing to do with the bible,jesus,salvation to be able to part of leadership or platform.. If there is a pastor on here that does this please tell me the reason why...

BadgerBoysMom · #49 03-03-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by edjen01

if a church chooses to have certain rules....why is that "cultish"?

couldn't it just be opinion...or variety?

What is the purpose of having these "rules"? If this is not a salvation issue then what's the point. Or is it really a salvation issue? If so then there would be scripture to support.

Can the saints not hear the leading of the Holy Ghost? Is it ONLY the leadership that is "in tune" enough.

If the leadership must make every decision for the people - then why do they have the HG? Would it make sense that ONLY those in leadership have it since they are making all the rules?

Just seems to be contradictory to scripture. I have no issues with someone holding to a standard because that is what they feel is necessary for them but to try and enforce it on others is plain and simple.... wrong.

KWSS1976 · #50 03-03-2009, 03:08 PM

Amen preach it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!