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Old 04-21-2009, 02:28 PM
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Good stuff. He's not a US citizen, I'm not even sure the ship he and his dead pirates attacked was an American ship (American crew, yes, but not sure it was an American ship) - so how do we have jurisdiction in this case?

I think it's the adminstration trying to look tough. Unfortunately for the administration, this will be a case, I think, they will wish to fade away.

And yes, this young buck will be living the high life free as a bird in the US of A here soon.

When he does go back to his country, he'll be legendary!

How many Somalis ever make it to New York city???
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:38 PM
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hang him from the yardarm
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:40 PM
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When he does go back to his country, he'll be legendary!

How many Somalis ever make it to New York city???
I doubt it.

that country is in such disorder and is ran by gangs....unless he brings lots of guns back with him they'll probably just put him back to work.
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The 9/11 conspirators were folks who were in America legally and did their crimes against Americans on American soil.



Shouldn't he stand trial in Somalia because he is a Somali citizen?

The crimes were not committed on American soil-- is the ship even American property?

The fact that Somalia has no government is a moot issue.


I don't think my tax dollars should be going to give this guy representation in our legal system.

How many thousands will be wasted on this guy? For what purpose?

Could he possibly get a fair trial in the first place? In fact, why would there even be a need for a trial? The only reason he was "captured" is that he was trying to negotiate the release of the hijacked American.

He's already guilty.


It would have been better for the young buck to have been killed than to have brought him back here.
bro, you are asking the wrong question! your answer is a given.

The question is why in the world is the current administration who are supposed to be committed to keeping Americans safe, bringing a foreign national with a proven history of violence to the United States?

This is really vile and really typical of these high minded 60s rejects that are now in charge.

God help us all.
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:57 PM
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what we should have done was fly over Somolia and pushed him out of the plane with a note saying "dont attack American ships".


after he stopped bouncing, they could read the note and know better in the future.
Thank you! But since Somalia is in the same neighborhood as our great leaders homeland, they might even be related, cousins or something.

Praise the Lord and pass the water pail.
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:58 PM
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bro, you are asking the wrong question! your answer is a given.

The question is why in the world is the current administration who are supposed to be committed to keeping Americans safe, bringing a foreign national with a proven history of violence to the United States?

This is really vile and really typical of these high minded 60s rejects that are now in charge.

God help us all.
Yup, you know how I typically swing, but this current administration is so vile that even I voted republican....
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Thank you! But since Somalia is in the same neighborhood as our great leaders homeland, they might even be related, cousins or something.

Praise the Lord and pass the water pail.
that doesnt seem to matter to this president. he has an Aunt in America living in abject poverty and a brother in Kenya in even worse conditions.
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For the record, I firmly believe this killer/thug will get off scott free. and I think that is why he is here.

Obama will make a show about "Amerian Justice" and how fair he is and then send him back to his momma so he can resume his activities on the high seas.


here is a nice quote that drives home that point.

Ron Kuby, a New York-based civil rights lawyer, said he has been in discussions about forming a legal team to represent the Somalian.

"I think in this particular case, there's a grave question as to whether America was in violation of principles of truce in warfare on the high seas," said Kuby.

"This man seemed to come onto the Bainbridge under a flag of truce to negotiate. He was then captured. There is a question whether he is lawfully in American custody and serious questions as to whether he can be prosecuted because of his age."
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Ferd,

The fact that he wasn't really "captured" but was actually in the process of negotiating the hostage's release further complicates this.

He shouldn't be tried here in America.


And the idea that President Obama may be related to this and every other African simply because he is African is not plausible, has nothing to do with the issue-- and why would it even be brought up? (not that you said this Ferd, but it's on my mind too.)

I stand by my initial statement that it would have been better for him to have been killed than to be brought here for trial.


But since he is here and will be standing trial as an adult, can he POSSIBLY get a fair trial here?
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Why shouldn't he stand trial in Somalia for his crime?

He's not an American citizen.
Does America's sovereignty extend to our commercial interests around the world?

His trial in America poses another issue-- who will represent him?
Of course, who will pay for his representation? The Somali government?
How about the fact they have no govn't
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