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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne
I don't know about Hawaii, but I have my original birth certificate from IL, and it doesn't have my doctor's signature on it. I have the original certificates for my children, also born in IL, and neither of them have the delivering doctor's name on them either. My BC has the hospital name where I was born, but neither of my children's BC's state that, only the city and state they were born. In fact, the certificates I have for them say nothing about a certificate of birth. It's just a document with their full name, sex, race, date of birth, mother's name, place of birth, and it's signed and sealed by the county clerk.
So what's the point? Me and my children don't have proof that we are natural born US citizens according to you?
What about children born at home? There is no doctor to sign papers for a birth certificate. Amish children aren't natural born either, I suppose.
Now, do you have proof, or will we just continue hearing    from you?
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another clueless rant.
No recollection of your birth certificate is not how we determine case law.
You also have not read or understood how hospitals work. Home births and hospital births all have boxes signed by witnesses.
Medical people understand the long form which Obama is hiding tells us what he doesn't want seen
After review of your posts, it seems you are defending Obama and i am discussing his behavior and non cooperation.
Google your heart out.
natural
Natural born
Naturalization
natural birth
Very different topics. Twisp used some of the expressions interchangeably and didn't get it.
It seems like you think like a criminal. I will be specific. A criminal beleives no crime was commited if the crime was not proven.
You believe his Certificate of birth
I will tell you again and it didn't soak the last few times. Obama has cast doubt on his birth history and records. He has talked about two birth documents and they do not and cannot match
The burden of proof is on him and not the people raising the question.
What is his alibi?
What is your alibi?
It has been duly noted that he lied about his hospital of birth.
Are you going to explain it or tell me he didn't?
The burden of proof is on the side of the deciever. That is the law.
He lied about the birth being one of two hospitals and shifted his story or alibi since his self glorifying web ste December.
So we have ask you to prove where he was born by reason of a third party witness or we have no choice but to reject your claim.
Koolaid drinkers don't like the burden of proof directed where it must be.
This like a drug test. The druggies won't cooperate and give a sample. They just repeat
prove it. Shift the
proof. States arrest people that refuse to coopperate or give a test. You think like a criminal. You reject his submission to proving his claim.
List of items i have shared that have shown discrepancies on Obama's part
Marriage liscense application
birth certificate
selective service registration
You are the 4th person on this thread to give up without supporting why a reasonable rational mind should be considered a citizen to meet thhe stadards for POTUS.
while you are wearing your criminal thinking cap, at such time Obama has conducted mischief and lied about his citizenship and passport and legal name in any way, his Illinois Bar certificate becomes cause for disbarment.
If I share the details with you how that works, you won't understand.
I do have sources that tell me how and why Michelle Obama got her liscense revoked. I am still waiting to confirm it.