TV Ministries

[edjen01]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You see Brother, it's not 1929, or 1954, we should have enough Jesus Name people in every part of this country. Jesus Name people who can eclipse the Mormons, and Jehovah Witnesses and reach out to those in their communities.
I wasn't won by a television Jesus, I was won by a man who took the time to work with me personally. I was too busy flipping the channels and trying to figure out why those T.V. preachers were so pasty looking and who sprayed their hair on, to consider their message. Our country is done with televised Church, they are so Postmodern its not funny. What is up and coming now is grungy preachers like Erwin McManus, and his greasy hair, and dirty t-shirts.
We are in a lot of trouble in this country, and we need to get some real personal Apostolic Pentecostal contact with the people. Not a blue screen hodown with greasy "Bro" preachers.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

doesn't the Holy Spirit draw us? if we are won by men...then I would think you'd be in favor of T.V. . idk.

Regarding EM...if you don't like what he looks like then don't watch...but describing his appearance as "dirty" and "greasy"...grow up. btw...he isn't even close to being the most watched preacher in America on a given weekend. but i'm sure you will find fault with their appearances, methods, messages, etc... .

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You see Brother, it's not 1929, or 1954, we should have enough Jesus Name people in every part of this country. Jesus Name people who can eclipse the Mormons, and Jehovah Witnesses and reach out to those in their communities.
I wasn't won by a television Jesus, I was won by a man who took the time to work with me personally. I was too busy flipping the channels and trying to figure out why those T.V. preachers were so pasty looking and who sprayed their hair on, to consider their message. Our country is done with televised Church, they are so Postmodern its not funny. What is up and coming now is grungy preachers like Erwin McManus, and his greasy hair, and dirty t-shirts.
We are in a lot of trouble in this country, and we need to get some real personal Apostolic Pentecostal contact with the people. Not a blue screen hodown with greasy "Bro" preachers.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

How many Jesus' do you know?

[Tina]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sister, in the verse I quoted it says to call for the elders, doesn't mean to pick up a telephone. It means that those who have a serious illness must send for the elders, and have them come to anoint and pray for those who have an issue. Back during a time when church was a community, anyone who was sick was being taken care of through personal prayers and personal ministry. No need for separation, dis-fellowship, and coldness of a television screen to replace real live Brothers and Sisters who will love and care for you.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

I can remember times from a few years ago that several families loaded up in cars and took the church service to the homes of those who were sick and unable to attend. I know they'd do the same thing again if there was someone that wanted it to happen.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Bro, you are a fount of television viewing info. I'd never heard of this guy until you brought him up. I figured that I had to Google him just to see his "dirty tee shirt." LOL.

How do you stay so current with all the lastest on television?

I do my ministry out and around the people of Fort Lauderdale, which are made up of Atheists, Denominational Christians, Rabbinical Jews, Muslims, New Agers, and Agnostics. From time to time someone will give me a book, or article, and discuss with me what is going on with the garbage on television.
Sheri said that gunsmoke is on the television, that was news to me.

You never said if you found Erwin Raphael McManus and his greasy hair and dirty shirt.

Lord bless you and yours

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esther

How many Jesus' do you know?

Paul knew of another Jesus, another spirit, and another gospel.

Different Jesus, spirits, and gospels all differing from what the apostles taught. That's what is paraded in living color on the tube.
John Hagee, teaches that Jesus wasn't the Jewish Messiah in his book "Defense of Israel." John Hagee is teach ANOTHER JESUS.

2Co 11:4

"For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him."

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tina

I can remember times from a few years ago that several families loaded up in cars and took the church service to the homes of those who were sick and unable to attend. I know they'd do the same thing again if there was someone that wanted it to happen.

Amen, that's what I'm talking about. Sad to say people would rather listen to Erwin McManus with his vagrant look.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by edjen01

doesn't the Holy Spirit draw us? if we are won by men...then I would think you'd be in favor of T.V. . idk.

Listen, Televangelists have been on the airwaves since the fifties, all different denominations and flavors. While the United Pentecostal Church International may not of used television there were other Apostolics who were on television (from what some have told me), therefore no one can say truth was never offered, and yet we never seen great gains made by television. With television we have a negative against Televangelism in this country. People have a major distrust of Televangelism, and it is the brunt of mockery. From the two fornicating Jimmies to homosexual in the closet Tedd Haggard, the public has been let down.

Originally Posted by edjen01

Regarding EM...if you don't like what he looks like then don't watch...but describing his appearance as "dirty" and "greasy"...grow up.

No, you grow up! Stop defending a man who isn't even close to preaching anything even remote to the Truth. I wasn't raised in Apostolic Pentecost, and had the luxury of hearing Apostolic One God Truth preached. I came out of the world, and know hippy philosophy when I hear it. Is that where you are headed? Does Erwin Raphael McManus' philosophical postmodern mantra mesmerize you? Are you taken away by his retro 1960s coffee house flair?
Sounds like you haven't been in a Holy Ghost service for a while.

Originally Posted by edjen01

btw...he isn't even close to being the most watched preacher in America on a given weekend. but i'm sure you will find fault with their appearances, methods, messages, etc... .

Erwin McManus, reads like the Swami Vivekananda. No, kidding, read some of his material it reminds me of the Swami Vivekananda. Every person being called to an awakening to who they are? How about Jesus is trying to awaken us to who He is. Erwin's dirty feet are to blend him into our confused culture, but his message dates back to the Hindu Vedic writings.

Be careful what well you drink from, it might be full of wigglers.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[edjen01]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Listen, Televangelists have been on the airwaves since the fifties, all different denominations and flavors. While the United Pentecostal Church International may not of used television there were other Apostolics who were on television (from what some have told me), therefore no one can say truth was never offered, and yet we never seen great gains made by television. With television we have a negative against Televangelism in this country. People have a major distrust of Televangelism, and it is the brunt of mockery. From the two fornicating Jimmies to homosexual in the closet Tedd Haggard, the public has been let down.



No, you grow up! Stop defending a man who isn't even close to preaching anything even remote to the Truth. I wasn't raised in Apostolic Pentecost, and had the luxury of hearing Apostolic One God Truth preached. I came out of the world, and know hippy philosophy when I hear it. Is that where you are headed? Does Erwin Raphael McManus' philosophical postmodern mantra mesmerize you? Are you taken away by his retro 1960s coffee house flair?
Sounds like you haven't been in a Holy Ghost service for a while.



Erwin McManus, reads like the Swami Vivekananda. No, kidding, read some of his material it reminds me of the Swami Vivekananda. Every person being called to an awakening to who they are? How about Jesus is trying to awaken us to who He is. Erwin's dirty feet are to blend him into our confused culture, but his message dates back to the Hindu Vedic writings.

Be careful what well you drink from, it might be full of wigglers.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

He does not need me to defend him...his ministry speaks for itself. I do know that he preaches Jesus...and i believe Jesus is the truth. I know that he preaches and practices...feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, helping the poor...and i do think those are elements of true religion.

regarding fornicating preachers and the homosexual closet....do you think that simply because the UPCI is not on tv that it has avoided these? they are alive and well...not because of tv...but because we fallen creatures. As for mockery...you honestly believe the world doesn't mock belief systems that preach & propagate a message that says a woman's hair length, going to a bowling ally, wearing the color red, playing checkers, wearing shorts(any length), etc...and that these things have eternal weight that could prevent a person from having a relationship with their loving Creator? That my friend gets mocked just as much as Tammy Fay and her fake tears.

As for Hindu Vedic's...since some of these were written before our cannon was...and many N.T. writers speak of personal abandonment and the letting go of worldly things for a greater cause...how do you know they were not influenced by these writings? I believe even St.Paul quoted the Sages and poets.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by edjen01

He does not need me to defend him...his ministry speaks for itself. I do know that he preaches Jesus...and i believe Jesus is the truth. I know that he preaches and practices...feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, helping the poor...and i do think those are elements of true religion.

Sri Ramakrishna, the guru of the swami Vivekanada, preached Jesus, and when the swami Vivekanada came to America in 1893 to attend the Parliament of World religions in Chicago, the swami Vivekanada spoke about Jesus Christ. Sri Ramakrishna taught that God was one yet as a big body of water is one, but had different tributaries from which people drew water, so was the One God. People draw water from one source, yet call the water by different names, so it is with God. The Apostle Paul warned of another Jesus, another spirit, and another Gospel. Mohammad, spoke about a Jesus that the Muslims hold in high regard, and yet he is not "the" Jesus.
Jehovah Witnesses, teach a Jesus who is an archangel who was sacrificed, and the LDS, teaches a Jesus who was born from a god who was once a man like you and I. All go by the name of Jesus, but have different messages, which lead to different outcomes for those who follow them. Clothe and feed the poor? Everyone from Muslims, to Buddhists, and Rabbinical Jews do good deeds, but their messages lead to eternal punishment.

Originally Posted by edjen01

regarding fornicating preachers and the homosexual closet....do you think that simply because the UPCI is not on tv that it has avoided these?

Every teacher, preacher or rabbi has fallen into some sort of stupidity, from the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, to the Rabbis arrested in N.J. sting. Yet, Osho, and the Rabbis don't corner the market on being thought of as perverts and crooks. Reason being, they didn't have their own television shows. There are Rabbis who have been arrested for all manner of crimes as the same with the gurus and swamis. Yet, you as the man on the street never really hear about them. In other words, since we had given these televangelists a license to kill on the airwaves we reap the harvest of mockery. You see Ed, John Q Citizen didn't grow up in a United Pentecostal Church, and therefore can't tell the difference from the two fornicating Jimmies, from a One God Pentecostal on the blue screen. They have no idea what is right or wrong. If it wasn't such a Biblical issue scripturally, then Paul wasted his time writing out 2nd Corinthians 11:1-33. The apostle defended his churches against those who preached another Jesus and another Gospel. Paul wasn't trying to make the Body of Christ user friendly and a grotesque postmodern monster. He was trying to show the strait and narrow way.

Originally Posted by edjen01

they are alive and well...not because of tv...but because we fallen creatures. As for mockery...you honestly believe the world doesn't mock belief systems that preach & propagate a message that says a woman's hair length, going to a bowling ally, wearing the color red, playing checkers, wearing shorts(any length), etc...and that these things have eternal weight that could prevent a person from having a relationship with their loving Creator?

Down here we have full blown sinners who want me to get them "Kill Your Television" bumper stickers. They fall out when I tell them that Christians fight me like wolves to defend television, and not cutting the hair of my daughters. The transvestites, and transgenders down here see the symbol of a dress and long hair, yet the ones I have spoken with are amazed that we Christians fight over these truths. You see Ed, these people weren't raised United Pentecostal, most weren't even raised in a religious home. They come from the most populated places in America, the inner cities. The inner cities where people need a real change from the televangelist garbage on the screen. You see, what they deal with every day is different from colgate smiles and baby soft hands of Joel Olsteen. Joel, and the rest of the t.v. preachers don't know what the people are going through or dealing with. Most of the people in the cities are dealing with new age, eastern philosophy, and microwavable mega church. For the most part the young people want militant faith. We are experiencing a lot of young men and women going into Islam, if you gave them your list of dos and don’ts, they would turn around and ask you what is your problem. We have a large group of Rastafarians down here who don't cut their hair, shave, and the women never have their dreads exposed or wear pants. They wear long sleeves, and no jewelry.
Our Hasidic Jews follow also the same pattern, of outer dress, long sleeves, no jewelry, women cover their heads, and wear ankle length dresses. In their homes they have no televisions. Ed, sinners and people of the world expect religious people to look and act spiritual. What shocks them is when you act and look they do.

Originally Posted by edjen01

That my friend gets mocked just as much as Tammy Fay and her fake tears.

The difference is Ed, John Q, expects godly looking sisters, and men. But it was Tammy's hysterical antics, and her colgate smiling husband's flamboyant spendings that blew John Q Public away. By the time they got to see Jimbo, crying and being dragged away in cuffs, old John Q was really flipping and tripping.

I have traveled all over America, and spent time talking to the man in the street. They want something real, and if they were to dedicate their lives to a religion, they wouldn't be spending most their time trying to figure out how to find loopholes, to adapt to their secular life.

I guess that job is for those disgruntles who were raised in the religion?

Originally Posted by edjen01

As for Hindu Vedic's...since some of these were written before our cannon was...and many N.T. writers speak of personal abandonment and the letting go of worldly things for a greater cause...how do you know they were not influenced by these writings? I believe even St.Paul quoted the Sages and poets.

I'm more than happy for you to show us how the Vedic writings of the Gita, compare to the teachings of the Gospel.

Paul didn't quote Aratus to align himself with the Greek poet. Paul was telling those on the Areopagus that they were too superstitious, and through ignorance they worship deities. Paul quotes Aratus to show how much they were in false worship. Paul was at no time trying to quote the Phaenomena to align Jesus Christ with Zeus and how man is his physical offspring.

Ed, I'm very interested to see how Krishna and Arjuna in the Gita were plagiarized by Jesus and His apostles.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[GrowingPains]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Five states? Interesting, and you teach that there is no trinity on the television?



Now Brother Eddies doesn't like any television preachers but himself?



Wow, I am trying to understand how Brother Eddie is not being traumatized through all this? He is shy right? So, Brother Eddie gets dragged to restaurants where they throw rolls at him, and then he must endure people fawning over him and wanting to have him sign napkins, have him take pictures with them, and drag him to adjacent tables where they can introduce him to total unknowns. Is your church televised down here in Fort Lauderdale?




No disrespect to you or Brother Eddie, I am hard pressed to believe that television can translate into something worth while. If you are happy with it, then that is all that should matter to you. I think television is a medium that is used for one purpose, and one purpose only. To control and guide the huddled masses off the nearest cliff.

Lord love both of you.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

*holding my tongue*

People getting saved or hearing of the Gospel through the airwaves and this guy wants to know if you taught godhead theology or not? Did you pick a fight? Did you "tell it like it is" and tell them "they can like it or go to hell?" Sigh. Some people... Hear it through the internet, listen to a tape/cd... ANYTHING but the TV! Wake up and smell the coffee. If TV preachers have a bad name, make it a good one!