First we had the spectacle of Sotomayor -- a race-preference lefitst -- backing off entirely from race preferences, and now we have policemen who normally would just be under fire, saying enough -- we're not going to take it anymore. Saying: For years we've bent over backwards to apologize for racial injustices, some of which occurred and some of which did not, we've taken so many hours of courses and training to be sensitive to minorities, and we're not going to be called racists anymore when we're not. You are a professor making five or ten times what I make. You are in state whose governor is black; you're in a city whose mayor is black. You're pretending you're a powerless victim and at the same time phoning my chief and calling me a racist, telling me I don't know who I'm messing with because your friend who is black is the president of the United States. **** you! And that's something of a cultural revolution. - David Horowitz
This whole event...has been sad but enlighting. If I may be transparent,...I am trully not racist... but all along I (IMHO), if I may say, as a white female, have felt a gag order, a duck-taping of my mouth, all because of "political correctness" .... ... maybe I can speak for whites in a broad spectrum...I can't say how I really feel, for fear of being labled or worse ....
This kind of behavior....from Bates....is, respectfully saying, keeping racisim alive. I'm not even sure if Mr. Bates knows that he is. All I pray for is that Bates, Obama, and all their friends, and all across America, that this is a wake-up. Reverse racism is real and also alive. All of this needs to stop.
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Nothing could ever repay the atrocity of slavery. But affirmative action in the educational system that directly benefits African-Americans would be a good start.
Clarence Thomas is one who benefited from an educational affirmative action program.
Affirmative Action based solely on color is something I am against, especailly when it comes to educational benefits.
The financial background and potential for scholastic ability should be the qualifiers. BTW there is more than one way to measure scholatic ability than solely on a student's G.P.A.
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Affirmative Action based solely on color is something I am against, especailly when it comes to educational benefits.
The financial background and potential for scholastic ability should be the qualifiers. BTW there is more than one way to measure scholatic ability than solely on a student's G.P.A.
I understand where you're coming from. But realistically, African-American students from the inner-cities who receive horrible educations have zero chance at qualifying. Unless they excel at sports they are left out completely from advanced education and the downward spiral of hopelessness continues.
Educational Affirmative Action isn't perfect but a flawed system of reconciliation is better than none at all.....from my perspective, anyway.
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How are Mr. Gates' actions keeping racism alive?
(hopefully, I'll be back online to read your response tonight.)
Thanks for correcting the name...Gates, not Bates.
I just listened to Ms Whalen's speech on Fox.
Prof. Gates spoke what was in his heart...hurt, anger, prejudece. As Ms Whalen said, she choose her words carfully. Prof. Gates, did not. In being caught off guard, by his reactions, he ignited racial hatred....yet again..sigh... (Maybe I'm choosing the wrong wording here myself, but I'm trying to choose carfully).
Even our own Pres. vommited his own feelings too. I do however see a silver lining in all this. We do need to talk about these feelings. But it is difficult.
If we are to ever get past these racial incidences, no matter what or who you are, we have to first be humble and open to hear what the other has to say.
I wonder how this "beer" theology thing is going to work...LOL
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Rom.8:38,39-For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither heigth nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to seperate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Affirmative Action based solely on color is something I am against, especailly when it comes to educational benefits.
The financial background and potential for scholastic ability should be the qualifiers. BTW there is more than one way to measure scholatic ability than solely on a student's G.P.A.
AA based on race is reverse racism, plain and simple. When the government or educational institutions require quotas or AA, in most cases they pass over the more qualified individual in favor of a person who's major qualification is dark skin. It's reverse racism and extremely unfair to those who work hard, study hard and are disqualified based on skin color.
I've heard people talk about paying african americans a settlement as reparations for the slave trade. While I believe racism and the slave trade to be abhorrent and sinful, I don't believe paying money to a race of people for something that happened hundreds of years ago is the answer. The biggest reason is there are likely millions in the US whose ancestors had nothing to do with the slave trade. My ancestors had nothing to do with the slave trade - so why should I have to pay for something we had no part in? Yes, it was terrible and I wish we could erase the sick stain from our history, but financial reparations are not the way to deal with it.
AA based on race is reverse racism, plain and simple. When the government or educational institutions require quotas or AA, in most cases they pass over the more qualified individual in favor of a person who's major qualification is dark skin. It's reverse racism and extremely unfair to those who work hard, study hard and are disqualified based on skin color.
I've heard people talk about paying african americans a settlement as reparations for the slave trade. While I believe racism and the slave trade to be abhorrent and sinful, I don't believe paying money to a race of people for something that happened hundreds of years ago is the answer. The biggest reason is there are likely millions in the US whose ancestors had nothing to do with the slave trade. My ancestors had nothing to do with the slave trade - so why should I have to pay for something we had no part in? Yes, it was terrible and I wish we could erase the sick stain from our history, but financial reparations are not the way to deal with it.
n david. I told myself I was going to stay out of this thread now. I've come to realize that with issues of race, it is easy to be misunderstood and misrepresented and that there are often deep emotions that few know about. I also know that most of what I would say is a waste of time because people tend to have their opinions set in stone already and there is usually very little room left for another perspective or for the notion that one person's reality may not be another's.
However, I will wade back in just a little. Trying to tie Affirmative Action into just slavery alone is a mistake. AA was designed to address very real and very institutionalized discrimination much, much, much more recently. What is sad to me that this was ever a necessity in our society. We can argue whether it is absolutely necessary today, but I don't think that anyone can argue that it wasn't necessary in the not-too-distant past.
Now I'm really going to test the waters:
I recognize that there are many white people who now feel like the system is unfair to them because there is a small portion of some instituation and opportunities that may not be available to them. This is a good starting point for dialogue. Multiply that reality and sentiment by 100 and extrapolate it over decades and generations. That may give some insight into what fuels a lot of emotion.
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... maybe I can speak for whites in a broad spectrum...I can't say how I really feel, for fear of being labled or worse ....
he ignited racial hatred....yet again..sigh...
(Maybe I'm choosing the wrong wording here myself, but I'm trying to choose carfully).
That could work! 
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