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Old 07-31-2009, 02:03 PM
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If one is in a cynical mood while reading this, it is easy to compare what happens in Job between God and Satan to Randolph and Mortimer ruining a mans life for a one dollar bet. "I say it is heredity!", "Well, I say it is environment! Shall we make our usual wager?"

As far as the man who risked his daughters life in Wisconsin, have you read any of their blog posts? They've made themselves into the victims being persecuted by the state (and satan) for THEIR "minister". It is all about them -their daughter is forgotten -or has even gotten sick because of HER sins.
It's too painful to watch. Boneheads. And I'm being very nice...
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:07 PM
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I have no problem with it being a literal story or a parable. I also do not believe it, in any way, contradicts God's nature. The whole point and lesson of Job is summed up in the last few chapters with all of the versus that begin "Where were you....?".
It is God trying to describe to him that he (and us) simply cannot understand His nature and His reasons. He HAS reasons, but for Him to vocalize them and try to get us to understand them is not unlike us trying to teach Hindu philosophy to a amoeba or bacterium. In both cases it is nothing but frustration to the one doing the explaining.

"Contradicts God's Nature" is too broad of a statement. Specificity is better.

The particular part that seems to "go against the grain" of the character pattern of God, is His negotiation with Satan and His allowing of death and destruction of innocent people in order to prove a point. I don't see anything else like that in scripture.

There are some things in the Bible that I struggle with and I'm willing to admit it. The book of Job is one of those things. But I do LOVE it when Elihu shows up in chapter 32. I've always wanted to be like Elihu.
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I vote we give Job the boot! Like they did the Apocrypha!
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I vote we give Job the boot! Like they did the Apocrypha!
Of all the books in the Bible, Job (along with Ecclesiastes) is perhaps the most in line with humanistic thought. I thought that would make it more appealing to you.
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Of all the books in the Bible, Job (along with Ecclesiastes) is perhaps the most in line with humanistic thought. I thought that would make it more appealing to you.
That does it for me! Out it goes!!!!!!! J/K
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Ah, I see. Well, the "someone" could be God!

Not bragging? What would you say He was doing, then, talking about how He, and not Job, created everything etc.?
I took it He was just stating facts.
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I took it He was just stating facts.
Every see Alias Smith and Jones? I think that was the show where some old gunslinger keeps saying "no brag, just fact". After bragging of his gunslinging abilities, of course!
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Every see Alias Smith and Jones? I think that was the show where some old gunslinger keeps saying "no brag, just fact". After bragging of his gunslinging abilities, of course!
Couldn't help myself: I had to look it up. Apparently, it wasn't Alias, but The Guns of Will Sonnett, and I can hardly remember that show at all! Weird.
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Couldn't help myself: I had to look it up. Apparently, it wasn't Alias, but The Guns of Will Sonnet, and I can hardly remember that show at all! Weird.
lol you know how the old cowboys were.
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Re: Book of Job is it an Allegory?

For those who doubt the historical account of Job being a real person it would on take a casual glance at the scriptures where he is mentioned to realiza he was a real person note:
Ez. 14:14...he is listed with Daniel and Noah were they fictional characters?
James 5:11 refers to Job as a person.
Fanciful interpetations come because folks don't study the Bible.
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