When the Bible was written did the people "vote" for their leaders or where they placed?
It just seems that "man" has more control now in deciding who is a leader and God is in NO WAY a part of the process.
Know what I mean?
Good point. Most all governments at that time were placed. But who placed them? Did God directly place or did bloodlines, etc.? The context of Romans 13:1 is that God places by allowing. He allowed it in old times by lineage, coups, and otherwise. He allows in our democracy by voting.
If God-placing only happens in non-democratic ways, then only non-democratic systems have leaders who are placed by God.
__________________ Who dares accuse us whom God has chosen for his own? Will God? No! HE IS THE ONE who has given us right standing with himself. Who then will condemn us? Will Christ Jesus? No, for HE IS THE ONE who died for us and was raised to life for us and is sitting at the place of highest honor next to God, pleading for us. (Romans 8:33-34)
"The greatest enemy to the movement of Jesus Christ is Christianity". –Erwin McManus
I don’t want any harm to come to our leadership in any way shape or form (especially Barry and A-Train Joe.... considering what would happen if something happened to them.)
This thread was all in jest. Just a bit of fun. You had to come in and act all put out and shocked and what ever.
Mr without religion you had to come in and explain what a great and wonderful "seeker pastor" you are.... (Like I have a clue what that is or even care) .... then you have the audacity to preach at me OVER A JOKE....
What ever dude, go find a seeker and tell them how pelosi'ed up they are.
I let this one go earlier but since you insist on being a rube….You insinuate that I either don’t have a pastor or I am in rebellion to my pastor. Look you knucklehead, you don’t know me. YOU don’t know a blessed thing about me so don’t be putting yourself in the judgment seat. It’s clear you take issue with OP's for doing that, but YOU did it here!
Down in Texas we call that Hypocrisy. You might want to study up on that so you can teach your next "seeker class" on the subject.
Also you might want to avoid hypocrisy in the future when offering instruction.
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Good thing the HOLY Spirit does leave us everytime we call someone a name or unhumbly correct someone who is not walking charitably. Good thing He is longsuffering not willing that anyone should perish, even the Pelosi's and trolls amongst us.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
I don’t want any harm to come to our leadership in any way shape or form (especially Barry and A-Train Joe.... considering what would happen if something happened to them.)
This thread was all in jest. Just a bit of fun. You had to come in and act all put out and shocked and what ever.
Mr without religion you had to come in and explain what a great and wonderful "seeker pastor" you are.... (Like I have a clue what that is or even care) .... then you have the audacity to preach at me OVER A JOKE....
What ever dude, go find a seeker and tell them how pelosi'ed up they are.
I let this one go earlier but since you insist on being a rube….You insinuate that I either don’t have a pastor or I am in rebellion to my pastor. Look you knucklehead, you don’t know me. YOU don’t know a blessed thing about me so don’t be putting yourself in the judgment seat. It’s clear you take issue with OP's for doing that, but YOU did it here!
Down in Texas we call that Hypocrisy. You might want to study up on that so you can teach your next "seeker class" on the subject.
Also you might want to avoid hypocrisy in the future when offering instruction.
I respect your right to say whatever you want, call me names, and hurl personal insults my direction. I won't return in kind. When one resorts to the tactics of insults and name-calling, it is usually indicative of the absence of any value one can add to the discussion. (Rush Limbaugh has talked a lot about that, I'm sure you know who that is)
If you have any content to offer, I'll be glad to discuss it with you. But I'm not sure how calling me a "Knucklehead" contributes to the dialogue in a thoughtful way.
I'm still shocked that anyone, be they Christian or atheist, would joke about drowning a lady, especially one who participates in the leading our our nation.
__________________ Who dares accuse us whom God has chosen for his own? Will God? No! HE IS THE ONE who has given us right standing with himself. Who then will condemn us? Will Christ Jesus? No, for HE IS THE ONE who died for us and was raised to life for us and is sitting at the place of highest honor next to God, pleading for us. (Romans 8:33-34)
"The greatest enemy to the movement of Jesus Christ is Christianity". –Erwin McManus
Good thing the HOLY Spirit does leave us everytime we call someone a name or unhumbly correct someone who is not walking charitably. Good thing He is longsuffering not willing that anyone should perish, even the Pelosi's and trolls amongst us.
You're obviously taking a shot at me, here and that's ok. As to me being "unhumble", you're welcome to your opinions and I respect them.
As for name-calling, you're welcome to copy & paste any names I've called anyone. I can't find any. But I DO know that just in this thread, I've been called a "troll", a "hypocrite", and a "knucklehead."
__________________ Who dares accuse us whom God has chosen for his own? Will God? No! HE IS THE ONE who has given us right standing with himself. Who then will condemn us? Will Christ Jesus? No, for HE IS THE ONE who died for us and was raised to life for us and is sitting at the place of highest honor next to God, pleading for us. (Romans 8:33-34)
"The greatest enemy to the movement of Jesus Christ is Christianity". –Erwin McManus
You're obviously taking a shot at me, here and that's ok. As to me being "unhumble", you're welcome to your opinions and I respect them.
As for name-calling, you're welcome to copy & paste any names I've called anyone. I can't find any. But I DO know that just in this thread, I've been called a "troll", a "hypocrite", and a "knucklehead."
If your going to ride vigilante through this forum and correct every unchristian innuendo, jokes in bad taste, evil speaking of others, you will wear yourself out. But kudos to your zeal!!!
Once you get to know a few folks you will take what they say with a grain of salt or ignore some of them completely, like I do.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
My Mom's favorite "cuss word" is "well, shoot poot!"
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Be content with what you have, for God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you." So say with confidence, "The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid." Hebrews 13:5,6
Love is patient, love is kind, Love does not insist on its own way. Love bears all things, believes all things,
Hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails.
- I Corinthians 13:4-8
My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. 
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