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View Poll Results: Do you believe and/or teach that standards are heaven or hell issues?
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Absolutely. I believe and teach that standards are heaven or hell issues.
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I believe that standards should be followed, but they do not necessarily affect salvation.
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I do not believe standards are salvational, but I teach them in compliance with the organization.
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I do not believe or teach that standards are salvational.
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I teach that standards are matters of consecration, but are not salvational.
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04-18-2007, 09:14 PM
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God's Son
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When the conservatives come up with a uniformed dress code then and only then can you all spit fire and venom with credibility.
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Originally Posted by Old Paths
PART of the reason is because those that KNOW, won't tell because they want the accolades from their fan club.
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04-18-2007, 09:16 PM
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Psalms 132:1
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by tv1a
When the conservatives come up with a uniformed dress code then and only then can you all spit fire and venom with credibility.
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OP  tv1a
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04-18-2007, 09:21 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by tv1a
It's pretty much a given dress codes have taken the place of the demonstration of the power of the Holy Ghost.
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What's your church's excuse?
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- And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. [Zechariah 14:9]
- Ignorance of the Identity of the One True God is not a valid reason to practice idolatry.
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04-18-2007, 09:25 PM
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Christmas 2009
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Jackson, TN
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Originally Posted by OGIA
I agree, PO, but there is a part of our outward appearance (esp. women) that attracts the world and let's them know "something is different about that one!"
I work in a hospital. I can spot the housekeepers from the nurses and them from the doctors..... WHEN they are dressed according to our system's standards. If I were to need a doctor, I'd KNOW (if they are dressed per "standards") who to run to. When they are walking around dressed any ol' way they chose, you can't tell one from the other (some- or most times).
Along those lines, I've always used this example (and pardon me that it works best with, but not exclusively with, women): if you desperately needed prayer at a car accident and two women were walking your way and one was dressed "worldly" and the other like an Apostolic who holds to the stricter standards of dress, who would you run to first?
Please don't assume I think outward dress saves anyone, but there is a place for it in the world. (I'm not even saying the more strict dresser is the best one to have pray for your need!) There may not be time for someone to see your fruit, even though I think that is the best indicator to the world of who is a Christian.
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The car accident scenario is just plain goofy!! I dare say if you were hurt bad enough, you'd be glad for anyone who calls on the name of Jesus!!
We were behind a horrible wreck a couple years ago on the way to Tulsa and the people flipped their car about five times. Eddie had to talk to the police, but I got to go over and minister to the hurt people. I was in jeans; do you think they cared? I got to pray for them and comfort them and they didn't care what church I was from!
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04-18-2007, 09:27 PM
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Not riding the train
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Originally Posted by Sherri
The car accident scenario is just plain goofy!! I dare say if you were hurt bad enough, you'd be glad for anyone who calls on the name of Jesus!!
We were behind a horrible wreck a couple years ago on the way to Tulsa and the people flipped their car about five times. Eddie had to talk to the police, but I got to go over and minister to the hurt people. I was in jeans; do you think they cared? I got to pray for them and comfort them and they didn't care what church I was from!
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Sherri,
That was pretty much a wide spread analogy. At least it has been in our area. LOL!
For me, I'm going to follow the standards because that's where I am right now. God hasn't changed my surroundings, so........ That's how I see it. I don't look down on people that don't hold them. I see things slowly changing.
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04-18-2007, 09:27 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by Sherri
I was in jeans; do you think they cared? I got to pray for them and comfort them and they didn't care what church I was from!
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You forgot one thing.......in my scenario there was another choice.
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- And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. [Zechariah 14:9]
- Ignorance of the Identity of the One True God is not a valid reason to practice idolatry.
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04-18-2007, 09:31 PM
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Christmas 2009
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Jackson, TN
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Originally Posted by OGIA
You forgot one thing.......in my scenario there was another choice. |
What do you mean? That they would have told me to take a hike if there had been a "Pentecostal looking" woman coming up behind me??? I don't think so.
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04-18-2007, 09:38 PM
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My Family!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Collierville, TN
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Originally Posted by OGIA
You forgot one thing.......in my scenario there was another choice. |
Oh please......first off you are trying to say that just because someone doesn't "look" PC they can't reach God? That's just nuts!
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04-18-2007, 09:40 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
Oh please......first off you are trying to say that just because someone doesn't "look" PC they can't reach God? That's just nuts!
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Uhm, what the scenario does not really tell is that a good many sinners have no idea how a conservative Pentecostal dresses. Only those who have been exposed to conservative Pentecost would know. With that in mind, I have to honestly say most folks in such a circumstance just want prayer, IMO.
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04-18-2007, 09:42 PM
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My Family!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Collierville, TN
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Originally Posted by rrford
Uhm, what the scenario does not really tell is that a good many sinners have no idea how a conservative Pentecostal dresses. Only those who have been exposed to conservative Pentecost would know. With that in mind, I have to honestly say most folks in such a circumstance just want prayer, IMO.
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Thank you.
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