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10-01-2009, 05:36 PM
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Re: 10.01.09-The End of Haneywood - D. Bernard New
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Originally Posted by madison
I have the Forward magazine in my hands and I would state from the article by DB on the Hair issue that he IS a supporter of the HMH doctrine. He talks about the whole power with the angels stuff!!!
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Good grief. But many have discussed the "power because of the angels" thing to emphasize their point, but don't interpret the same as many do. I've read Bernard's writings, where he says "power" is authority (which is the literal meaning of the word there).
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10-01-2009, 05:38 PM
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Re: 10.01.09-The End of Haneywood - D. Bernard New
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
Word has it that this is true. And he isn't happy to see what remains of the healthy church when he left. The "word has it", I probably shouldn't have repeated it, because to be honest, this came from 5th and 6th-hand sources.
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Me thinks you speak amiss....  
How could he "take it back" - he resigned and a new pastor was voted in. The Board would have to "fire" the new pastor or he would have to resign (and that ain't happening) then the church would have to vote in a new pastor.... hm-m-m-m-m I'm not sure I see that happening.... There are a lot of people in that church that are completely satisfied and happy with their current pastor.
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10-01-2009, 05:54 PM
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Re: 10.01.09-The End of Haneywood - D. Bernard New
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I know two former waitresses personally who have said the same thing.
More importantly, I've been at restaurants with fellow Apostolics and seen abysmal tips left (or none at all)--and my husband has thrown more money on the table when they weren't looking. (And yes, I'm smart enough to know that SOME people put the tip on their credit card.)
It's silly to act like Apostolics are experts at social graces. Many of them are not, and are actually rude, difficult customers.
Our pastor teaches that if you can't afford to tip well, you can't afford to eat out.
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Some people tip well and others don't, but to point a finger at any identifiable group and say that they are obnoxious and stingy is silly.
I completely reject this unfair characterization of my brothers and sisters in Christ based on the unfortunate experience of a random waitress or random waitresses.
I have heard the same criticism directed at the members of a local Vineyard congregation. Therefore, from my experience, Vineyard members are notoriously poor tippers and a server's nightmare. However I'm pretty sure that this is not universally true of Vineyard members. Why, Vineyard Sam is so generous and gracious that he is able to pass judgement on a whole movement of religious slobs who fall short of his exacting standards of restaurant etiquette.
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10-01-2009, 06:00 PM
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Re: 10.01.09-The End of Haneywood - D. Bernard New
Can someone post what the vote count was today!
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10-01-2009, 06:01 PM
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Re: 10.01.09-The End of Haneywood - D. Bernard New
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I wonder if KH will take back the Stockton church. NH is not well.
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What makes you say that?
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10-01-2009, 06:02 PM
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Re: 10.01.09-The End of Haneywood - D. Bernard New
Unfortunately, Stephanas, because Apostolics are so distinctive in appearance, what one Apostolic does easily misrepresents the whole group. It is a problem. So to combat it, make sure you're a generous tipper and a kind customer.
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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10-01-2009, 06:10 PM
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Re: 10.01.09-The End of Haneywood - D. Bernard New
I'm still confused....did Bro. Mooney withdraw his name after the nomination or after the actual election? In other words, did Bro. Mooney technically serve as GS for several minutes?
Also, if he really did not want the job, why did he allow his name to run in the first place?
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10-01-2009, 06:12 PM
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Re: 10.01.09-The End of Haneywood - D. Bernard New
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Originally Posted by madison
I have the Forward magazine in my hands and I would state from the article by DB on the Hair issue that he IS a supporter of the HMH doctrine. He talks about the whole power with the angels stuff!!!
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Unless he did a complete 180 from when he wrote "In Search of Holiness", which I highly doubt.
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10-01-2009, 06:13 PM
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Re: 10.01.09-The End of Haneywood - D. Bernard New
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
Word has it that this is true. And he isn't happy to see what remains of the healthy church when he left. The "word has it", I probably shouldn't have repeated it, because to be honest, this came from 5th and 6th-hand sources.
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I totally agree.
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10-01-2009, 06:15 PM
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Re: 10.01.09-The End of Haneywood - D. Bernard New
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Originally Posted by Orthodoxy
I'm still confused....did Bro. Mooney withdraw his name after the nomination or after the actual election? In other words, did Bro. Mooney technically serve as GS for several minutes?
Also, if he really did not want the job, why did he allow his name to run in the first place?
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He withdrew his name after the results of the nomination and before the actual election.
They don't have people "running" for GS. The ministers make nominations, and then those nominees are voted on.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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