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View Poll Results: Is a 100% sinless life (besides Jesus) possible?
Yes, it's possible 8 24.24%
No, it's impossible 25 75.76%
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:46 PM
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:55 PM
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Re: Is a 100% sinless life possible?

So, six people (so far) think that a sinless life is possible?

These six people still look at sin like a digital off or on switch. You have eithered sinned or you haven't.
To these six people I ask: When a young man see's a beautiful young woman walk past him, on the scale of "appreciation of her beauty" on one end and "wild lustful, tongue hanging out and hands groping in the same manner as Lenny and Squeaky groping during the opening credits of every Lavern and Shirley episode" there are perhaps a million micro increments in between. At what point is it a sin? If you look at the color white, at what level of grey does white turn into a sin?

Is it really a question of our sin nature and simply trying to do the best we can with Christs blood covering the rest?
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:58 PM
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So, six people (so far) think that a sinless life is possible?

These six people still look at sin like a digital off or on switch. You have eithered sinned or you haven't.
To these six people I ask: When a young man see's a beautiful young woman walk past him, on the scale of "appreciation of her beauty" on one end and "wild lustful, tongue hanging out and hands groping in the same manner as Lenny and Squeaky groping during the opening credits of every Lavern and Shirley episode" there are perhaps a million micro increments in between. At what point is it a sin? If you look at the color white, at what level of grey does white turn into a sin?

Is it really a question of our sin nature and simply trying to do the best we can with Christs blood covering the rest?
I voted yes because I believe that if we have no choice but to sin then God's judgment of sinners for something they can't help but do seems strange.
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:26 AM
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So, six people (so far) think that a sinless life is possible?

These six people still look at sin like a digital off or on switch. You have eithered sinned or you haven't.
To these six people I ask: When a young man see's a beautiful young woman walk past him, on the scale of "appreciation of her beauty" on one end and "wild lustful, tongue hanging out and hands groping in the same manner as Lenny and Squeaky groping during the opening credits of every Lavern and Shirley episode" there are perhaps a million micro increments in between. At what point is it a sin? If you look at the color white, at what level of grey does white turn into a sin?

Is it really a question of our sin nature and simply trying to do the best we can with Christs blood covering the rest?
Is that a "no"?
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:50 AM
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So, six people (so far) think that a sinless life is possible?

These six people still look at sin like a digital off or on switch. You have eithered sinned or you haven't.
To these six people I ask: When a young man see's a beautiful young woman walk past him, on the scale of "appreciation of her beauty" on one end and "wild lustful, tongue hanging out and hands groping in the same manner as Lenny and Squeaky groping during the opening credits of every Lavern and Shirley episode" there are perhaps a million micro increments in between. At what point is it a sin? If you look at the color white, at what level of grey does white turn into a sin?

Is it really a question of our sin nature and simply trying to do the best we can with Christs blood covering the rest?
Randy,

I’ll share my thoughts on this if you don’t mind. I don’t think that if a young man sees a beautiful woman and appreciates her beauty he has sinned. I don’t think if he has an intimate thought about her that he has sinned. He might even entertain a fantasy about her, and still I don’t think he has sinned. I do believe that the moment he determines to actually pursue her as an object to satisfy his carnal desires, he has sinned in his heart before he has even said hello.
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:14 AM
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Re: Is a 100% sinless life possible?

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So, six people (so far) think that a sinless life is possible?

These six people still look at sin like a digital off or on switch. You have eithered sinned or you haven't.
To these six people I ask: When a young man see's a beautiful young woman walk past him, on the scale of "appreciation of her beauty" on one end and "wild lustful, tongue hanging out and hands groping in the same manner as Lenny and Squeaky groping during the opening credits of every Lavern and Shirley episode" there are perhaps a million micro increments in between. At what point is it a sin? If you look at the color white, at what level of grey does white turn into a sin?

Is it really a question of our sin nature and simply trying to do the best we can with Christs blood covering the rest?
At least one of the six (mfblume) voted wrong, so it's really 5 (or fewer) Yeses and 19 Nos.

Anybody else vote without reading post 1? The question is for an entire lifetime, not just the possibility of not sinning after receiving the HS, and it excludes the life of Jesus.
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:18 AM
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What "law" is Paul speaking about?
The same law that proposed holy days and months and years -- in Gal 4. the law that Paul said was for Jews before Christ came in 3:23-24.
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:40 AM
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The same law that proposed holy days and months and years -- in Gal 4. the law that Paul said was for Jews before Christ came in 3:23-24.
I ask this because there is the Law of God (the Ten Commandments) and the Law of Moses (Mosaic Law). Essentially God inspired Moses to codify how their society was to keep and obey the Law of God. While the Law of Moses is definately no longer applicable and definately doesn't apply to the Church, the question is... how do we relate to the moral Law of God? Most of us lump the Ten Commandments in with the Law of Moses and assume it's all the same and all put away. I don't believe that's so. I believe the Law of God, the Ten Commandments, are still commandments to be obeyed. We are simply not bound to obey them in the way ancient Israel did via the Law of Moses. I believe that the Ten Commandments are eternally binding and set the standard of what God expects from all mankind:

The Ten Commandments
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I
Thou shalt have no other gods before Me

II
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image

III
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord
thy God in vain, for the Lord will not
hold him guiltless that taketh His name in vain

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Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy

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Honor thy father and thy mother,
that thy days may be long upon the land
which the Lord thy God giveth thee

VI
Thou shalt not murder

VII
Thou shalt not commit adultery

VIII
Thou shalt not steal

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Thou shalt not bear false witness
against thy neighbor

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Thou shalt not covet

If an action doesn't break one of these in some way, it's not sin. That's just my take on it.

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Old 10-29-2009, 09:49 AM
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Re: Is a 100% sinless life possible?

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For anyone besides Jesus, I mean.

Out of the many billions of people who have ever lived, some still alive, some yet to be born, is it possible for any of them to live a life (of at least, say, 30 years) without ever once doing anything wrong? No murders. (That's probably fairly common! ) No adultery, stealing, lying, idol worhip, etc. Ever!

I'm not talking about some kind of default guiltiness through Adam's sin or anything like that. I mean genuine acts of sin. Include sins committed unknowingly. E.g., if a woman wears pants (or think of something else, if you don't think that's a sin! ) without knowing it's sin, God would call it sin anyway (right?), so count that, too.

Include sins committed (if any) before (or after) being saved (those who were lucky enough). Look at the whole time line of each life.

So. What do you think? Certainly, everyone would agree (I think) that some people commit more sins than others. There must be a bell curve or something. Most of us are bunched together near the middle of the range. Some really bad guys are off to the right, sinning way more than average, but some really good folks are at the other end. Some have to be really close to the Zero!

Could there be anyone with a lifetime count of exactly 0 sins?
All have sinned and come short. Although I do believe that it is possible to go and sin no more as Jesus once had said to the woman caught in adultery. JMHO
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:04 AM
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Yes. If the oment afterthey come up from the waters of baptism and get the HOly Ghost we shoot them. They will then have lived a completely sinless life. For a few moments at least.
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