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Old 11-28-2009, 07:21 PM
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God bless America, and God bless President Barak Obama.
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:06 PM
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God bless America, and God bless President Barak Obama.
I don't respect one who has fraudulently taken office aided and abetted by Globalists, Marxists and Radical Islamics that hate America and the freedom and liberty it represents. I don't respect one who denies that America's greatness lies in having been shaped and defined by Judeo-Christian values.
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:57 PM
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Newman wrote/ Dr. King's "I Have a Dream" was all about getting past skin color and judging people by who they are. Most people pulling the lever for Obama on election day knew very little about Obama thanks in part to the mainstream media's push for a "historic presidency" based on the color of his skin.

notofworks responded/Like I said, there are almost no African American's who would agree with what you said after the first sentence, and since it is their skin and their life we're talking about, I'd say their opinion is significant. I find it ironic that you and other conservatives, can't admit that he was elected because of his appeal, character, and potential. It's pretty tough for some of you to give a black man credit, isn't it?

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I once expressed an opinion to an African-American doctor who said to me with great conviction, "Have you ever been thrown out of a restaurant because you were a n____?" He gave several other examples and said, "Until you've lived in my shoes, don't you dare tell me how I should think." I learned a great lesson from him. I'm saying that the black community would highly disagree with what you've said and I think that matters.

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1. Approximately 8% of black Americans are not enthralled with the president.

2. I first got a clue about what Obama stood for when I read an article by Thomas Sowell, a black economist. He pleaded with America to look under the wrapper and not be dazzled by skin color. He said Obama had nothing to offer but an old failed message. He thought, one day, there would be a black man as president, but he was adamant that Obama was the wrong man. He admonished us to remember that the wrapper wasn't as important as the contents.

3. I don't deny that Obama was elected because of his appeal and charisma. But I do recognize that that wasn't enough to get him through the primaries with his paper thin resume had he not been black and backed by others who were clearing the playing field for him (a coalition of POWER BROKERS who wanted to fundamentally change America).

4. You better believe he was elected because of his potential. But potential to do what?

5. Obama's world view was shaped in his childhood by a mother who was an Atheist and father figures who were Communist. His education continued in the sewer swamp of Chicago politics under the special care and guidance of radicals. Most Americans pulling the lever for Obama on election day did not fully understand this although the media made sure that we knew everything there was to know about Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and Joe the plumber's taxes.

6. I stand by my original post in saying that Obama was not the fullfilment of Martin Luther King's dream. The content of his character took a back seat to skin color. (Are you aware of the many character and association issues out there)?

7. I understand Black Americans being happy that a black man became president [despite his character] but I believe a legitimate black presidency could have happened 8 years earlier had Colin Powell decided to run for office. And that would have been the fullfillment of Dr. King's dream.
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Most of our glorious founding fathers that you probably bow to had zero political experience. Furthermore, the original intent for our leaders was that they be everyday people that represented the public, not career politicians. It's funny...so many conservatives have cried bitter tears about "Career Politicians" but then, when a guy comes along who ISN'T one, you start crying about his lack of experience. Hypocrites.
Huh? According to Wikpedia, "The framers of the Constitution had extensive political experience. By 1787, four-fifths (41 individuals), were or had been members of the Continental Congress. Nearly all of the 55 delegates had experience in colonial and state government, and the majority had held county and local offices.[7]"

"The eminent American historian Richard B. Morris, in his 1973 book Seven Who Shaped Our Destiny: The Founding Fathers as Revolutionaries, identified the following seven figures as the key founding fathers: Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, John Jay, James Madison, and Alexander Hamilton.[3]

Feel free to point out which of the founding fathers had a resume that most closely resembled Obama's...

BTW- Do not bring up the similarity between Hitler's community organizing and memoirs before he came to power because he wasn't one of our founding fathers or presidents.
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Heavenly Father,

I pray for our president Obama. I know that he supports equal representation and rights under the law that allows gays to marry. I pray that his intentions are pure and in favor of freedom, even if it be freedoms I disagree with. I pray that those who take this freedom find happiness, but ultimately I pray they find you.

Father, I know Obama believes that a woman's body isn't property of the United States Government and that a woman should have a right to choose. I pray that his motives are pure and truly are concerned with the rights and welfare of women. I also pray that those who he empowers choose life.

I ask oh Lord that you lead and guide him as he leads our nation in the days ahead.

In Jesus name.

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....one of the most perverted prayers I think I've read/heard....
WHAT????? Perverted? Are you completely off your rocker?
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Huh? According to Wikpedia, "The framers of the Constitution had extensive political experience. By 1787, four-fifths (41 individuals), were or had been members of the Continental Congress. Nearly all of the 55 delegates had experience in colonial and state government, and the majority had held county and local offices.[7]"

"The eminent American historian Richard B. Morris, in his 1973 book Seven Who Shaped Our Destiny: The Founding Fathers as Revolutionaries, identified the following seven figures as the key founding fathers: Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, John Jay, James Madison, and Alexander Hamilton.[3]

Feel free to point out which of the founding fathers had a resume that most closely resembled Obama's...

BTW- Do not bring up the similarity between Hitler's community organizing and memoirs before he came to power because he wasn't one of our founding fathers or presidents.
Barak Obama had about as much experience as any of these people. They had no political experience in national politics...they didn't exist yet as we know it. It's funny...when you listed off the "offices" they held, it sounded like the offices that Obama has held that Republicans make fun of.
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:11 PM
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Barak Obama had about as much experience as any of these people. They had no political experience in national politics...they didn't exist yet as we know it. It's funny...when you listed off the "offices" they held, it sounded like the offices that Obama has held that Republicans make fun of.
1. Your original premise was that the framers of the Constitution weren't political. They were.

2. Please let me know just which president had about the same level of credentials as Obama. Remember, Washington led an army before he led the nation.
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