Read Segraves on "letting down hair"

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by BobDylan

You call not addressing a single point I make, and attempting to assess flaws in reasoning you never addressed "disecting my argument"? THAT'S FUNNY!!!! Your still hung up on "magic hair", and I haven't even used that verbiage in several pages of detailed responses and reasoning. But if your still wringing your hands over something I said on page 5, I don't know what to say other that I am starting to feel sympathetic toward you for the dejection you must be feeling. I'll start being a little more compassionate... You poor thing....

Right, never addressed a single point you made

Now it's all clear...BD is the real Bob Dylan and years of drug use has made him insane

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Right, never addressed a single point you made

Now it's all clear...BD is the real Bob Dylan and years of drug use has made him insane

This is what I am saying!

Also, he has apparently spent waaaaay to much time alone with a thesaurus... although I am not quite sure that he has all the definitions down correctly...

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by jfrog

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Jfrog I just want to add first of all unless this man talked to LS he has no way of knowing what LS is doing.

HOWEVER if he realized his hoodoo voodoo presentation of the occult is wrong he NEEDS to do more than making an adjustment to how he presents it but come out and tell his followers "I was wrong to say that, please forgive me. I don't want any of you to be under the impression that we should do this because they do it" etc etc

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

This is what I am saying!

Also, he has apparently spent waaaaay to much time alone with a thesaurus... although I am not quite sure that he has all the definitions down correctly...

What he is doing is sort of a chess tactic. One chess defense is called the Petrov Defense. Essentially for the first several moves of the opening game the defense makes the same moves as the offense (white). Though now for BD this is an endgame strategy..It's really just more obfuscation on his part because he never had a strong position to begin with.

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

What he is doing is sort of a chess tactic. One chess defense is called the Petrov Defense. Essentially for the first several moves of the opening game the defense makes the same moves as the offense (white). Though now for BD this is an endgame strategy..It's really just more obfuscation on his part because he never had a strong position to begin with.

One of the reasons I would be REALLY interested in knowing who he is, I have a strong feeling that he has another identity around here. And his motivation is really murky, can't quite get a handle on it.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

One of the reasons I would be REALLY interested in knowing who he is, I have a strong feeling that he has another identity around here. And his motivation is really murky, can't quite get a handle on it.

My guess is that Bob Dylan is a relatively young man who thinks he knows it all. Furthermore, he probably feels that its a disgrace to admit that he is wrong, so now he's working on this incredibly ridiculous defense of the indefensible just so he won't have to admit his error.

This is a sign of someone who is not quite confident enough with their own knowledge to be able to say "You're right, I'm wrong".

Hopefully, one day he'll get there, because one cannot be a great leader without the ability to admit that you may be mistaken.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by dizzyde

One of the reasons I would be REALLY interested in knowing who he is, I have a strong feeling that he has another identity around here. And his motivation is really murky, can't quite get a handle on it.

Well, I can tell you one thing - with all of his defense and explanatory endeavouring of what LS is saying, he is also perpetuating false doctrine.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

My guess is that Bob Dylan is a relatively young man who thinks he knows it all. Furthermore, he probably feels that its a disgrace to admit that he is wrong, so now he's working on this incredibly ridiculous defense of the indefensible just so he won't have to admit his error.

This is a sign of someone who is not quite confident enough with their own knowledge to be able to say "You're right, I'm wrong".

Hopefully, one day he'll get there, because one cannot be a great leader without the ability to admit that you may be mistaken.

But, Michael! He has an iphone! Doesn't that make him credible in some way?!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

You either don't read what we post or don't get it. What you have admitted LS teaches, not us but you, WE say is heretical,

It's NOT "his approach" or his "presentation"

It's His DOCTRINE.

It's RR's Doctrine

We also oppose the results he has gotten from the various quotes of testimonies from other women

If LS was wrong in his presentation that led to these results, he needs to do more than a simple adjustment in his approach. He needs to publically disavow himself from that approach and tell his hearers everywhere he goes that he was wrong, even put it in the Herald.

What I gather is that LS, like most preachers, are simply preaching the same thing but from different angles to get the desired result.

He knows the results. We all know the results. Woman on the UPC offical website, picture of her letting down her hair to SUMMON ANGELS...

They know the results and have no problem with it. If they wanted to distance themselves from the results they would do much more than have an article by DS. They would come out officially and distance themselves from those sort of results and the teachings that brought them there.

What you have now are people in the UPC divided between the LS camp and the DS camp. They follow LS not DS, until LS fesses up to his false doctrine and his "wrong presentation", they will continue

Prax,
I was telling my husband about your comments here. He said, "He sure does! He's messing up a whole lot of women!"

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

My guess is that Bob Dylan is a relatively young man who thinks he knows it all. Furthermore, he probably feels that its a disgrace to admit that he is wrong, so now he's working on this incredibly ridiculous defense of the indefensible just so he won't have to admit his error.

This is a sign of someone who is not quite confident enough with their own knowledge to be able to say "You're right, I'm wrong".

Hopefully, one day he'll get there, because one cannot be a great leader without the ability to admit that you may be mistaken.

Going by what we have seen here, I would guess that day is a looooong time coming, if it ever does arrive!