The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save - Page 11

Pressing-On · #**101** 03-30-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

Snowballs are thrown from both sides of the fence. (Maybe not in Texas! LOL!)

LOL! I've thrown about three snowballs. That's enough for me. LOL! Today, was a beautiful, clear and much warmer day! I saw some Bluebonnets!

Yes, they do come from both sides of the fence!

notofworks · #**102** 03-30-2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter

(Re: the bolded/underlined)

I think I know quite a few people who are doing the same!

So... help me out here.

My husband believes. He earns an honest living. He takes care of his family. He doesn't hurt anyone. He does not go to church. He does not have a relationship with God. He likes to drink a few times a week. He chews tobacco. He loves his family. He does not lie nor cheat.

Saved or not Saved?

100%, absolutely, completely, through & through, saved!!

notofworks · #**103** 03-30-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

All Galatians is speaking of is the Jews coming against the New Covenant by keeping and trying to enforce the law of circumcision when Jesus talked about receiving His Spirit, which is a circumcision of the heart.

A game changer they did not want.

Can you elaborate on 4)?

Yes, but I'll make it quick.

To summarize it all, teaching that salvation comes from the Cross of Christ alone has, personally, cost me everything. Twice. But no honor to me for that. That's just the way it is.

Trusting in the cross of Christ alone takes all the power out of human hands and humans don't like that, especially religious humans. When humans lose their control over other people, they fight and they fight hard.

Funny thing....those that have removed the "walls" are the "Greasy grace" folks that are "making everything easy." But be forewarned...if one desires to really teach grace, it could cost you everything. I was told that. I thought I would be the exception to the rule. I was wrong. I didn't realize just how ugly controlling religious people could be when they're losing their grip on people. And I'm NOT just speaking of UPC or pentecostal people.

Neck · #**104** 03-30-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Neck,
I love you, man, but I don't have any bitter stories to relate. LOL!

Love is good I think we all are concerned and love each other! I have been in and around all of this now that I am 45 for 45 years, I am not bitter either just tired...

Pressing-On · #**105** 03-30-2010, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Neck

Love is good I think we all are concerned and love each other! I have been in and around all of this now that I am 45 for 45 years, I am not bitter either just tired...

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have used the word bitter. I apologize to you.

It's just when I hear that scenario played out in a post, my mind goes to all of the glorious times I've seen God bless and touch a person. It's so personal and beautiful, I don't see or remember the bad things - try not to remember.

I will share a funny story though. I was in Lufkin, Texas at Youth Camp. First time around a bunch of Pentecostals in such large number. I was at the front praying and I had a girl on my left and one on my right. The one on the left was saying, "Talk to Him. He needs to hear your voice." The other girl was saying, "Let Him talk for you." LOL! Well, by then I was furious and I jerked both of my arms out of their hands. I looked at one girl and said, "First you are telling me to talk!", then I looked at the other, "And you are telling me not to! What am I supposed to be doing?!" Their eyes got really big and I don't even think they answered me. Then I had a really fat girl get in my face and say, "REPENT SISTER!!!!!" I heard someone behind me say, very quietly, "She has already repented." Hilarious!!!!

I received the Holy Ghost the last night of Camp Meeting. God was more real and personal to me than any of the other stuff. He is altogether lovely!!!

Pressing-On · #**106** 03-30-2010, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

Yes, but I'll make it quick.

To summarize it all, teaching that salvation comes from the Cross of Christ alone has, personally, cost me everything. Twice. But no honor to me for that. That's just the way it is.

Trusting in the cross of Christ alone takes all the power out of human hands and humans don't like that, especially religious humans. When humans lose their control over other people, they fight and they fight hard.

Funny thing....those that have removed the "walls" are the "Greasy grace" folks that are "making everything easy." But be forewarned...if one desires to really teach grace, it could cost you everything. I was told that. I thought I would be the exception to the rule. I was wrong. I didn't realize just how ugly controlling religious people could be when they're losing their grip on people. And I'm NOT just speaking of UPC or pentecostal people.

Thanks for your response. I am thinking of this scripture in Jude 1:3
"Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints."

Looks like something a little deeper is going on than only "The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save".

mizpeh · #**107** 03-30-2010, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have used the word bitter. I apologize to you.

It's just when I hear that scenario played out in a post, my mind goes to all of the glorious times I've seen God bless and touch a person. It's so personal and beautiful, I don't see or remember the bad things - try not to remember.

I will share a funny story though. I was in Lufkin, Texas at Youth Camp. First time around a bunch of Pentecostals in such large number. I was at the front praying and I had a girl on my left and one on my right. The one on the left was saying, "Talk to Him. He needs to hear your voice." The other girl was saying, "Let Him talk for you." LOL! Well, by then I was furious and I jerked both of my arms out of their hands. I looked at one girl and said, "First you are telling me to talk!", then I looked at the other, "And you are telling me not to! What am I supposed to be doing?!" Their eyes got really big and I don't even think they answered me. Then I had a really fat girl get in my face and say, "REPENT SISTER!!!!!" I heard someone behind me say, very quietly, "She has already repented." Hilarious!!!!

I received the Holy Ghost the last night of Camp Meeting. God was more real and personal to me than any of the other stuff. He is altogether lovely!!!

How do you know you received the Holy Ghost?

Pressing-On · #**108** 03-30-2010, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

How do you know you received the Holy Ghost?

Well, previously in the Baptist Church, I was taken to the back and talked to and told that I was saved after a Sinner's Prayer. I knew that I was not saved.

This time I felt the presence of God and began to speak in tongues as the Spirit of God gave the utterance.

mizpeh · #**109** 03-30-2010, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Well, previously in the Baptist Church, I was taken to the back and talked to and told that I was saved after a Sinner's Prayer. I knew that I was not saved.

This time I felt the presence of God and began to speak in tongues as the Spirit of God gave the utterance.

I knew I received the Spirit when I spoke with tongues also. It happened with me and a friend praying in my apartment.