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Old 04-15-2010, 05:07 PM
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It sure looked like Reba , among others were strengthening their stock investment in max factor , revlon and merle normon. A question to all of you ladies that now wear paint ( makeup) : Do you feel better about yourselves now? I have never seen any women that looked better in makeup, it is unhealthy physically and emotionally.
I am sure glad I was not drinking anything when I read this. I would have spit it up. There are some women blessed with wonderful clear olive complexions. There are many though who look much better with some makeup on.

I remember on a trip onetime getting gas and going in a convenience store where I ran into two Pentecostal couples probably in their early 30's. The one woman had red hair and a very fair complexion with a bazillion red zits popping out on her face. It was not giving any glory to God. She would have looked ten thousand times better with some foundation and makeup on.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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That is no excuse for accepting a open sinful lifestyle is it??

There is no way of knowing what is in a person's heart or life that's between them and God... but a person living in open sinful lifestyle that knows how to live right before God... does that make it acceptable to you to be able to fellowship with them or listen to them sing about the Glory of God??
Kick the sinful gossipers out of the choir and see who left to sin or preach!
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Old 04-15-2010, 05:11 PM
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You're separation by appearance is hypocritical since "apostolic" men look just like baptist and methodist men or even men of the world. It's impossible to tell them apart. So it's a separation for women only!

You cannot even prove your "standards" by the scriptures. Therefore you are holding onto and teaching a tradition of man as salvational! You are laying burdens on women that God has not commanded.

And then you accuse others of pandering to the flesh! Your boast of standards as being "holiness to the Lord" is fleshly, imo.

The example that Christ set was one of inner holiness with fruits of the Spirit as evidence.
Excellent post Ms. Peh.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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It sure looked like Reba , among others were strengthening their stock investment in max factor , revlon and merle normon. A question to all of you ladies that now wear paint ( makeup) : Do you feel better about yourselves now? I have never seen any women that looked better in makeup, it is unhealthy physically and emotionally.


THIS is why I miss the ultra-cons!!!!
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Old 04-15-2010, 07:41 PM
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THIS is why I miss the ultra-cons!!!!
Yup. Some entertainment just can't be bought. It has to come to you.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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Re: JCM Reunion / AMC Conference Check In Thread

Some of you libs just need to really get over yourself already....whew....
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Old 04-15-2010, 07:49 PM
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Men:
collared shirts long sleeve ( prefer white or solid, no see thru or silk only one button open
Modest suits nothing wild, ie: black, grey brown ,blue.
No jewelry, including wedding band
good conservative hair cut
modest shoes like Florsheim nothing outlandish
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Ladies:Neckline covering the same area as a mans shirt with one button open, long sleeves,no straight skirts mid calf in length, No slits of any kind no denim.Moderate colors no red , hot pink or neon type colors. No tight or form fitting apparel. No pants, shorts culottes, or pajamas night gowns only of modest nature. Closed toe and heel ,no high heels as these make a woman walk in a provocative way. Hair : uncut no perm, curls or hairspray, to be worn up modestly and head-covering in services and during prayer.
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Dear brother, if I am to believe that all this is God's will I will need bible for each and every one. Otherwise I have to believe that some man invented them on their own. May I please ask for scriptures?
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Dear brother, if I am to believe that all this is God's will I will need bible for each and every one. Otherwise I have to believe that some man invented them on their own. May I please ask for scriptures?
Praxeas I asked the same thing on the other thread. Here is what I asked for!

Originally Posted by yisroelm
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Ladies:Neckline covering the same area as a mans shirt with one button open, long sleeves,no straight skirts mid calf in length, No slits of any kind no denim.Moderate colors no red , hot pink or neon type colors. No tight or form fitting apparel. No pants, shorts culottes, or pajamas night gowns only of modest nature. Closed toe and heel ,no high heels as these make a woman walk in a provocative way. Hair : uncut no perm, curls or hairspray, to be worn up modestly and head-covering in services and during prayer.

You've got to be kidding! Right? If not, would you do something for me. If this is Biblical then you owe it to me to show me the scriptures so I won't be lost! And I want scriptures, not a man's opinion!

1. Neckline covering the same area as a mans shirt with one button open, ..... scripture? ______________?
2. long sleeves, ..... scripture? ______________?
3. no straight skirts ..... scripture? ______________?
4. mid calf in length, ..... scripture? ______________?
5. No slits of any kind ..... scripture? ______________?
6. no denim. ..... scripture? ______________?
7. Moderate colors ..... scripture? ______________?
8. no red , ..... scripture? ______________?
9. hot pink or neon type colors. ..... scripture? ______________?
10. No tight or form fitting apparel.
11. No pants, shorts culottes, or pajamas ..... scripture? ______________?
Is this your scripture? De 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

What about this scripture? Deut 21:18 ¶ If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: 19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; 20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. 21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
12. night gowns only of modest nature. ..... scripture? ______________? (Do you have to take a shower fully clothed, so as not to be immodest?)
13. Closed toe and heel , ..... scripture? ______________?
14. no high heels as these make a woman walk in a provocative way. ..... scripture? ______________?
15. Hair : uncut
16. no perm, curls or hairspray, ..... scripture? ______________?
(Do you wear cologne and deodorant?) WHY?
17. to be worn up modestly and head-covering in services and during prayer. ..... scripture? ______________?

Again, I want scripture, not some man's opinion! I hope this was posted by you TIC!

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Yeah I saw that, did he ever respond?
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I will say this...

The reunion judged itself by it's own admission... by this line on it's advertisement..

Haters and Judge will be sent to Restriction Room..

I think this is the greatest battle that those face that let go of what they once believed.. there will always be a "guilt" associated with their decision..
I was all ready to respond to this and then I remembered that it might come across as I have "guilt"....
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