But what happens when you do all that praying and it does not happen healing or anything else for that matter...Do we have a biblical instance of someones prayers not getting answered....
I do not believe that Matt 25 applies to the church at all....
Well, there's one way to get out of it! I'm gonna use that one the next time someone tells me to pay my tithes.
May I ask, who in the blazin' heck is it applied to? Everyone else? Clearly, some in Matthew 25, are going to "Inherit the kingdom." Are you saying that someone will inherit the kingdom besides the church?
But what happens when you do all that praying and it does not happen healing or anything else for that matter...Do we have a biblical instance of someones prayers not getting answered....
I maintain faith that God is still in control and though I cannot see Him in the situation, like Job I know He sees me. And I do not let it discourage me into believing God does not perform miracles. I have prayed and seen miracles and prayed saw none. Matters not to me.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Do you believe the bible is the inspired, infallible word of God?
NO...Man wrote it and I really don't think it was God inspired....
I find it amazing that people profess faith in Jesus and believe the bible is not inspired. If part is wrong, then we have no basis at all to know what other part is not wrong. Cannot have it both ways. It all becomes subjective when one admits PART is wrong.
__________________ ...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
I maintain faith that God is still in control and though I cannot see Him in the situation, like Job I know He sees me. And I do not let it discourage me into believing God does not perform miracles. I have prayed and seen miracles and prayed saw none. Matters not to me.
I agree. I've had things in my life work out and it could have only been, in my opinion, God. The whole "Healing" subject is one of those things I don't quite understand. I'm afraid I've mostly seen pseudo-healings, if not all. But it doesn't change my faith in God. The straight-forward claims of healing in the New Testament and the lack of it we experience don't reconcile for me. Maybe there's an explanation but I don't have it.
I find it amazing that people profess faith in Jesus and believe the bible is not inspired. If part is wrong, then we have no basis at all to know what other part is not wrong. Cannot have it both ways. It all becomes subjective when one admits PART is wrong.
I disagree. Pelathias explained it very well. Inspired? Yes. Infallible? No.
For it to be "Infallible" we are believing that translators are as inspired as the original authors. At that point, which translators were inspired and which weren't? The KJV people? The NIV? The NLT? There's a long list. Did ALL the translators get it right? Some of them? Who's completely inspired and who isn't?
And there are the scribal additions that are almost certainly a part of the bible we have. Were those additions inspired that made their way into the manuscripts?
I accept the bible, as a whole, that we have. My favorite translation is the original New Living Translation. I don't care as much for the Second Edition, but it's getting hard to find the original.
No disrespect towards you intended, but I have seen genuine miracles, and any time I saw them were instances after which I had to get as far away from this reasoning you portray as I can.
A lady in our church was requiring kidney surgery, and she was healed. She went to the doctor and was told her kidney is spontaneously regenerating itself, and kidneys do not HEAL. He could not explain it and she told him it was God. The doctor gave her a high-five.
We prayed for another sister in front of the congregation who had a large lump on her side that the physicians said they could not remove by operation. As we prayed it instantly disappeared.
We're seeing more and more this.
And again, I have to be as far away from your reasoning as I can get in order to see these things. There will always be forgeries and counterfeits of the true, but they do not mean real miracles are not occurring.
My thoughts, anyway.
And my thoughts too! I've also seen healings (and have even been used in a couple)!
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May I ask, who in the blazin' heck is it applied to? Everyone else? Clearly, some in Matthew 25, are going to "Inherit the kingdom." Are you saying that someone will inherit the kingdom besides the church?
I agree...Matt 25 is about works...the church is saved by grace.
But I do believe that at the White Throne judgment there will be those who are "saved" not part of the church or the Bride, but saved nonetheless...I will be honest and tell you i dont understand it all...but I cant see the church at that judgement.
Well, there's one way to get out of it! I'm gonna use that one the next time someone tells me to pay my tithes. 
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