The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I'm in the middle of reading a pdf file. What do you think about starting a thread on the subject of errors in various Bible translations? I'll post it there when I get a chance. That is, if you want to start a thread.

I'm supposed to be taking pictures of an antique cabinet my sister wants to buy. Haven't done that yet. I was supposed to do it last night.LOL! I'm so sunburned from going out in our boat - MIDDAY - for fours hours on Friday that I'm not in a big mood to do anything much. I wish I could stop hurting!

Translation errors???? GASP!!! How dare you??

What should the thread be about, specifically?

[Jeffrey]

God has spoken, the rest is commentary.

Nothing wrong with "commentary." What do you think the Mishnah or Talmud were? Jewish discussion on "what God said" is nothing new. Surprises me to think that many see the Bible as a gift straight from the mouth of God into the pen of King James' court.

In Biblical linguistics, Amplified is certainly not technically "commentary," since it's pairing offerings of manuscripts from another language.

I wonder if Paul knew his words would make-up an entire Bible for generations, and be looked at as written by God himself

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Translation errors???? GASP!!! How dare you??

What should the thread be about, specifically?

Hmmmm....Spotting Errors in Various Bible Translations? Something to that effect?

Some of the errors could be just our opinion which would also be interesting.

The verse I'm thinking of brings in the word "shame" and someone may think it would be correct. We shall see. Anyway, I have to run. Let me know if you want to start the thread. I think it would be one that is added to over time as we won't catch everything in a day, KWIM?

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Hmmmm....Spotting Errors in Various Bible Translations? Something to that effect?

Some of the errors could be just our opinion which would also be interesting.

The verse I'm thinking of brings in the word "shame" and someone may think it would be correct. We shall see. Anyway, I have to run. Let me know if you want to start the thread. I think it would be one that is added to over time as we won't catch everything in a day, KWIM?

I'd enjoy such a thread. I know there's been many like it before.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

I'd enjoy such a thread. I know there's been many like it before.

Sounds great. You guys come up with a title thread and we can run with it. I'm thinking Mizpeh would be interested in a thread of that nature as well.

Gotta run. God Bless!

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Still wrong.

It is not commentary. You know how all dictionaries give more than ONE TERM for a definition? Well, instead of translating the Hebrew or Greek word into ONE of the several English words in a definition for the Greek or Hebrew, the Amplified LISTS ALL THE options of the definition, and not just one.

There are two things, Mike...and you're surprising me here. There's the divinely inspired Word of God that appears translated from multiple languages and manuscripts, and there....everything else.

So what would you call the "Everything else"? If it's not commentary, what is it?

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

God has spoken, the rest is commentary.

Nothing wrong with "commentary." What do you think the Mishnah or Talmud were? Jewish discussion on "what God said" is nothing new. Surprises me to think that many see the Bible as a gift straight from the mouth of God into the pen of King James' court.

In Biblical linguistics, Amplified is certainly not technically "commentary," since it's pairing offerings of manuscripts from another language.

I wonder if Paul knew his words would make-up an entire Bible for generations, and be looked at as written by God himself

Correct. I believe I originally said, "It's basically commentary". If not, I should have. That's what I always say about it when asked. It's a usage of words or phrases to shed light on the understanding of a verse...and some of it could be wrong.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by notofworks

There are two things, Mike...and you're surprising me here. There's the divinely inspired Word of God that appears translated from multiple languages and manuscripts, and there....everything else.

So what would you call the "Everything else"? If it's not commentary, what is it?

I already said what it is. It is the VARIOUS DEFINITIONS of the SINGLE Greek and Hebrew words. lol

It's like doing this with the word HAPPY.

Happy (WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY)
HAP'PY a. [from hap.]
1. Lucky; fortunate; successful.
Chimists have been more happy in finding experiments, than the causes of them.
So we say, a happy thought; a happy expedient.
2. Being in the enjoyment of agreeable sensations from the possession of good; enjoying pleasure from the gratification of appetites or desires.

And once we get all these variations of the SAME WORD HAPPY, we write a sentence like this:

"I was so HAPPY (lucky; fortunate; successful, in the enjoyment of agreeable sensations from the possession of good) to meet you at the coffee shop while you were agreeing with Timmy of how stupid everyone on AFF is."

I did not give commentary on the parentheses, but THE VARIOUS CORRECT DEFINITIONS of the single word. A dictionary definition is not a commentary. And that is all that the amplified bible did.

If you still disagree, you just want to disagree. lol

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I already said what it is. It is the VARIOUS DEFINITIONS of the SINGLE Greek and Hebrew words. lol

It's like doing this with the word HAPPY.

Happy (WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY)
HAP'PY a. [from hap.]
1. Lucky; fortunate; successful.
Chimists have been more happy in finding experiments, than the causes of them.
So we say, a happy thought; a happy expedient.
2. Being in the enjoyment of agreeable sensations from the possession of good; enjoying pleasure from the gratification of appetites or desires.

And once we get all these variations of the SAME WORD HAPPY, we write a sentence like this:

"I was so HAPPY (lucky; fortunate; successful, in the enjoyment of agreeable sensations from the possession of good) to meet you at the coffee shop while you were agreeing with Timmy of how stupid everyone on AFF is."

I did not give commentary on the parentheses, but THE VARIOUS CORRECT DEFINITIONS of the single word. A dictionary definition is not a commentary. And that is all that the amplified bible did.

If you still disagree, you just want to disagree. lol

No Mike, this isn't true. The Amplified Bible is NOT just expounding on word definitions. I just grabbed mine and opened randomly to the New Testament. There are two forms of additions to the text; 1) Parentheses; and 2) Brackets.

The Parentheses contain additional words that help clarify the meaning of words. The brackets, however, "contain justified clarifying words or comments not actually expressed in the immediate original text" and that's a direct quote.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by notofworks

No Mike, this isn't true. The Amplified Bible is NOT just expounding on word definitions. I just grabbed mine and opened randomly to the New Testament. There are two forms of additions to the text; 1) Parentheses; and 2) Brackets.

The Parentheses contain additional words that help clarify the meaning of words. The brackets, however, "contain justified clarifying words or comments not actually expressed in the immediate original text" and that's a direct quote.

Guess I had incorrect info. Thanks!

So, anyway.... do you think someone who accepts Jesus in their hearts, and refuses baptism is saved?