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Old 05-18-2010, 08:54 AM
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Yes. I took that as "It's right no matter what, shut up and preach it without questioning it."
How else they gonna keep the "U" in "UPCI"?
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Old 05-18-2010, 08:58 AM
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Re: UPCI Changes

Like I said, I am not UPC. I do not go to a UPC church and am not licensed by the UPC so my opinions do not have any weight. But, it is my opinion that the whole "Apostolic Identity" emphasis is just "teaching the commandments of men" or emphasizing what the Roman Catholics would call "holy tradition "as a supplement to Scripture" or "in place of Scripture." Notice the emphasis on not questioning or analyzing, just obeying it and teaching it.

This may be an emphasis on "straightening up" or "laying down the law" by the new Gen. Supt. as a reaction to folks leaving the organization on Bro. Haney's watch over what was seen by many as "compromise" "deteriorating standards" or "encroaching worldliness" by allowing "hellivision" and by allowing "facial hair" on the GC platform. There is an old saying about a new broom sweeping clean. He may want to serve notice that he is now there and he is "large and in charge."
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Old 05-18-2010, 09:33 AM
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At the Mich mens conf. J. H. Osborn pleaded to the next generation of men: "You did not write this doctrine, do not change it, do not analyze it, just preach it!"
Chilling.

Just check your mind at the door and follow tradition blindly.

Ironically, this is the identical behavior apostolics castigate in others when "denominal" Christians refuse to abandon their own traditional positions, often centuries old, to embrace ours.

We are to have the mind of Christ, not to abandon the mind entirely. We have a sacred and scriptural obligation to study and examine the scriptures to be sure that we are truly delivering the gospel that was ONCE delivered unto the saints.

It raises my hackles when ministers are told to sit down and shut up regardless of their honesty, sincerity, or walk with God.
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at the mich mens conf. J. H. Osborn pleaded to the next generation of men: "you did not write this doctrine, do not change it, do not analyze it, just preach it!"
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*jaw dropped*

Isn't this how cults are started? Close your eyes and follow!!!

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When our freedom is lost to ask questions we have become a communist state....
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I know one group in Brazil that has their laws hanging up in the walls of their church and the missionary's phone number for saints to call if the rules are not obeyed...
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Well, people may do and preach things for salary but coming from their heart is another story...
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