Well, you might want to note that this is supposed to be an Apostolic Forum. So, your tag line, that you are so happy and willing to display, speaks that you aren't getting the attention you desire from your agnostic forum boards. Just sayin'......
I'll let others compete for the "Most Compassionate and Understanding Christian Award". I'd rather say that you are a grown woman, you know the Word of God and you know better. If you are where you are now, it's of your own design. God does not forsake someone that hungers and thirsts for righteousness. I'm not going to share the depths of hell I have experienced to prove my point. Needless and fruitless pandering is not one of my strong suits.
Michlow is free to respectfully post her statements of a "questioning" nature on this Apostolic board. You of course are free to respectfully post a reply, but being so dismissive isn't particularly helpful, neither to Michlow nor to anyone who may be lurking and asking the same questions.
I'm not competing for any "awards" but I do find something in Michlow's experiences that are kindred to my own. When I was tossed from my position of Apostolic holiness and right standing, I ended up questioning everything.
The faith that I had been raised to possess seemed to be false if I were to pursue moral righteousness. Yet, remaining "faithful" and "obedient" meant pursuing a course of at least implicit immorality. So, to be righteous I had to leave "the faith."
Those were the circumstances that I was faced with. It was as if God Himself didn't want me to be a part of "His church" and "He" forced me out by demanding that I become unrighteous by staying.
In time, of course, I came to find a bigger God than the one I was limiting myself to previously. But He had to completely destroy my "faith" in that "smaller God" to allow me to find the bigger One.
I don't know what the "bigger God" is doing in Michlow's life right now, but I wouldn't want to mess with Him.
Michlow is free to respectfully post her statements of a "questioning" nature on this Apostolic board. You of course are free to respectfully post a reply, but being so dismissive isn't particularly helpful, neither to Michlow nor to anyone who may be lurking and asking the same questions.
I'm not competing for any "awards" but I do find something in Michlow's experiences that are kindred to my own. When I was tossed from my position of Apostolic holiness and right standing, I ended up questioning everything.
The faith that I had been raised to possess seemed to be false if I were to pursue moral righteousness. Yet, remaining "faithful" and "obedient" meant pursuing a course of at least implicit immorality. So, to be righteous I had to leave "the faith."
Those were the circumstances that I was faced with. It was as if God Himself didn't want me to be a part of "His church" and "He" forced me out by demanding that I become unrighteous by staying.
In time, of course, I came to find a bigger God than the one I was limiting myself to previously. But He had to completely destroy my "faith" in that "smaller God" to allow me to find the bigger One.
I don't know what the "bigger God" is doing in Michlow's life right now, but I wouldn't want to mess with Him.
So, did you trip around laughing about being a heathen and agnostic? I find it very offensive, especially, since it's been going on since FCF.
I must have a spirit of confrontation, because I seem to cause it even when I'm not trying!
To be fair, on FCF, I still believed in God, and the Bible & the 3 steps, I was just questioning standards. By the time NFCF rolled around, I added tithing and Pastoral authority and well as mandatory church attendance to the list. It wasn't until AFF that I left church completely and became the heathen I am today.
For the record, I will accept both DM's Incomprehensible, and Pel's the essense of Awe as adequate substitutes.
PO, I know I annoy you on my good days, so I will try to tone it down for the next few weeks!
The Christian journey involves the constant pursuit of Truth. If you are an agnostic then why are you on this Christian forum? Just curious since agnostics typically believe truth is unknown or unknowable. It is lost somehow. Which is it for you? Unknown or unknowable?
I am not trying to be offensive Michlow. I rarely post on forums these days but was stirred by your use of Descarte and then your conclusion about being agnostic. Descartes quote does not affirm agnosticism either. I am NY right now so I'll check back in later.
Well, you might want to note that this is supposed to be an Apostolic Forum. So, your tag line, that you are so happy and willing to display, speaks that you aren't getting the attention you desire from your agnostic forum boards. Just sayin'......
I'll let others compete for the "Most Compassionate and Understanding Christian Award". I'd rather say that you are a grown woman, you know the Word of God and you know better. If you are where you are now, it's of your own design. God does not forsake someone that hungers and thirsts for righteousness. I'm not going to share the depths of hell I have experienced to prove my point. Needless and fruitless pandering is not one of my strong suits.
You may have spoken to Michlow but you spoke of me just as well.
So PO, just remember that you yourself are where you are because of your own design. Don't forget it and don't blame God for it on judgment day.
So, did you trip around laughing about being a heathen and agnostic? I find it very offensive, especially, since it's been going on since FCF.
No, I didn't have that sort of healthy personality. I was more of the "curled up in a little ball of bitterness" kind of guy.
I passed over FCF when I saw what I perceived to be too much of a "holier than thou" club at work apparently trying to hammer to "wayward" into line. I obviously didn't give it enough of a look.
I came back by again after Jim passed away (I knew his parents), but I was "Kicked banned" for protesting too much against the "good ol' boys" - aka: "The Posse."
I think if I had found Michlow's "trip" and many of the others that I might have been ready to settle down and be almost civil. As it was, I was "all alone in a wilderness." No man cared for my soul, and frankly, for a while I didn't care much about it either.
No, I didn't have that sort of healthy personality. I was more of the "curled up in a little ball of bitterness" kind of guy.
I passed over FCF when I saw what I perceived to be too much of a "holier than thou" club at work apparently trying to hammer to "wayward" into line. I obviously didn't give it enough of a look.
I came back by again after Jim passed away (I knew his parents), but I was "Kicked banned" for protesting too much against the "good ol' boys" - aka: "The Posse."
I think if I had found Michlow's "trip" and many of the others that I might have been ready to settle down and be almost civil. As it was, I was "all alone in a wilderness." No man cared for my soul, and frankly, for a while I didn't care much about it either.
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