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Old 07-14-2010, 10:52 AM
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Re: if your oneness but not UPC what are you?

All the Jews were Oneness. Still are. The Christian concept came much later than Abraham,.
Holiness is a different group. Methodists used to be mostly labeled Holiness.
Now not so much.
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Old 07-14-2010, 11:13 AM
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Yes that is what I am referring to. I am not saying I am against standards/holiness/biblical modesty just trying to figure out where these different oneness churches/organizations stand on these issues.

I am looking through the site mizpeh posted now.
Are you seeing any that look interesting?
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Old 07-14-2010, 11:36 AM
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Re: if your oneness but not UPC what are you?

If you're "Oneness" but not UPC you're Apostolic!

I went through the same "revelation" several years ago. When we lived in Alaska, we met some folks while eating dinner that "looked UPC". Imagine our surprise when we found out that they had no idea what the UPC was! Never even heard of it. And yes, they believed and lived Acts 2:38 etc.

If you're traditional UPC, or think in those terms (not saying you are or do) these "revelations" can really shake things up!

The UPC does not have a monopoly on God or His Word!
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:20 PM
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I am a bit confused on this, are there other oneness organizations?

Do they believe in the apostles doctrine firmly, just without the "Holiness Standards"

Thanks
If you are Oneness but not a member of an organization called UPC, then you are a Christian with a particular theology called Oneness. There are many Oneness orgs
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:21 PM
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If you're "Oneness" but not UPC you're Apostolic!

I went through the same "revelation" several years ago. When we lived in Alaska, we met some folks while eating dinner that "looked UPC". Imagine our surprise when we found out that they had no idea what the UPC was! Never even heard of it. And yes, they believed and lived Acts 2:38 etc.

If you're traditional UPC, or think in those terms (not saying you are or do) these "revelations" can really shake things up!

The UPC does not have a monopoly on God or His Word!
The UPC is just an org and as an org does not claim a monopoly on God or His word. Generally speaking, as the word Apostolic is used by Oneness. Being a person that goes to a UPC church does not make you not Apostolic
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:26 PM
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The UPC is just an org and as an org does not claim a monopoly on God or His word. Generally speaking, as the word Apostolic is used by Oneness. Being a person that goes to a UPC church does not make you not Apostolic
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The UPC is just an org and as an org does not claim a monopoly on God or His word. Generally speaking, as the word Apostolic is used by Oneness. Being a person that goes to a UPC church does not make you not Apostolic
Catholics also call themselves Apostolic.
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:48 PM
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Catholics also call themselves Apostolic.
They aren't the only ones. There are a group of protestants that call themselves Apostolic because they believe in apostles and apostolic gifts
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:53 PM
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Re: if your oneness but not UPC what are you?

I have always considered myself Apostolic. When our church went from ALJC to UPCi I was confused but told it was no different. I don't remember all the strictness before. But I was a new convert at the time so perhaps I wouldn't have. It was done to help our church, as we are a smaller congregation and some of the things from ALJC went away. The idea I think was to have more things to do. Camp, Conferences and such.

I love my pastor dearly and have very much respect for him. Just researching. He has always said if I preach to you anything that is not in the Word of God bring it to me. I also want to know what other Oneness believers believe. I am praying for the Lord to continues to lead me in the Holy Ghost.

Thanks for the info all!
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Re: if your oneness but not UPC what are you?

Are there any Orgs that teach Oneness and Acts 2:38 that do NOT teach womens hair cutting is a sin?
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