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Maximilian · #**301** 07-23-2010, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

So we have two applicants to run our new Seminary. One has a PhD from the University of South Africa and the other has a PhD from Dallas Theological Seminary. Who gets hired?

Depends what connections the candidate has

I still go back to MMM's statement about why should a student go to UGTS and pay triple the cost when the school's president went to a African college with little theological recognition.

Good point though. Add Dallas to the list of reputable schools.

MrMasterMind · #**302** 07-23-2010, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie

I aint got no college, but there aint no and in your sentence.

NEVERTHELESS, the subject is not the college, it is why the president of the only UPCI seminary would choose to go there.

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And to think I was thinking about getting a MDiv from UGST, where he is president. Cost over $26,000 in tuition. Three years of classes.

When I could follow his lead. For THREE grand and a few months, write a paper get a Masters?

Yes Hoover that is the issue, the message it sends.

Maximilian · #**303** 07-23-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie

But see DKB is not that way.

I think he and his students feel he is qualified to head up the seminary without the South African study. Apparently the oversight committees for UGST accreditation felt similarly in recent months (unless of course there thought it bought even more credibility).

He's not "which way?" The standing and saying is a figure of speech. It's not literal. By posting the school on your bio, you are "standing and saying."

Yes, UGST has approved and accepted Bernard as President based on his qualifications. Not really the point though. We could discuss that as a side-show though I guess.

Baron1710 · #**304** 07-23-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie

But see DKB is not that way.

I think he and his students feel he is qualified to head up the seminary without the South African study. Apparently the oversight committees for UGST accreditation felt similarly in recent months (unless of course there thought it bought even more credibility).

You are kidding right?

No serious theological training and yet still the best man to head up UGST?

The Oversight Committee doesn't determine the head of a University. They check the rigor of the program. If they (UGST) begin to operate like University of South Africa guess what? They will lose accreditation in a heartbeat.

Hoovie · #**305** 07-23-2010, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximilian

Inconsistencies with people's criticism of LS and the defensiveness with DKB.

The point isn't that South African University is a diploma mill, it's that it's yet another high profile theologian with a school no one's ever heard of as his education in a field most relative to what he does. What we do know of said school, is that their academic rigor is inferior to American theological schools, especially those with ATS affiliation.

This is FUNNY. Of course it is! THAT is why the criticisms is "inconsistent".

edit... sorry I thought the bold said SEU... but the point remains.

Baron1710 · #**306** 07-23-2010, 04:57 PM

Not to beat a dead horse but UGST CAN NOT offer a Masters for the same work that University of South Africa can. Why? Because the accrediting agency says that is not sufficient education to receive such a degree. He is asking other to do more than he was willing to do.

Hoovie · #**307** 07-23-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

Yes Hoover that is the issue, the message it sends.

Don't follow you... the college or the attendance being the issue. I was quoting someone else...

Hoovie · #**308** 07-23-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

Not to beat a dead horse but UGST CAN NOT offer a Masters for the same work that University of South Africa can. Why? Because the accrediting agency says that is not sufficient education to receive such a degree. He is asking other to do more than he was willing to do.

Fabulous! Nice to see they are raising the bar. Nice move forward.

Mr. Smith · #**309** 07-23-2010, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximilian

Depends what connections the candidate has

I still go back to MMM's statement about why should a student go to UGTS and pay triple the cost when the school's president went to a African college with little theological recognition.

Good point though. Add Dallas to the list of reputable schools.

Oh, I agree...that was a GREAT point by MMM. It's up there with any other point being made. But hey, you all are just bitter, divisive, faultfinders, and touching God's anointed. Better be careful!

Maximilian · #**310** 07-23-2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie

This is FUNNY. Of course it is! THAT is why the criticisms is "inconsistent".

Are you seeing no similiarities?

Sub-par, short-cut education

on the other side...

Above ground, reputable institutions, academic rigor, honorable

The differences are that of degree only.

The criticisms have been by one poster upset about those who take "short-cuts" then he defends a school that offers short-cuts.