Isaiah 3 and jewelry...

[rdp]

Originally Posted by ashley123

As a woman in mordern time, i don't agree with the view the women should be condemned.

"Modern time" does not erase God-Breathed Scripture Ashley. Besudes, YOU are seeing these verses as "condemning." But this is simply plain Bible instructions.
Everyone desires beauty and fashion, especially women. It is nomal that women wear handbags,perfume and other accessories.

Many things are "normal" to the flesh, but Jesus instructed us to deny ourselves. BTW, purses are simply a means of convenience for lugging around things, & are certainly not condemned in Scripture [didn't exist, but principle isn't there either]...though, as w/ anything I suppose that one could fulfill their desire for ornamentation w/ them as well.

Out of pocket 'till Monday......

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by ashley123

As a woman in mordern time, i don't agree with the view the women should be condemned. Everyone desires beauty and fashion, especially women. It is nomal that women wear handbags,perfume and other accessories.

I've questioned if we are going against the nature of a women with the no adornment position. My small daughter wants to dress pretty and stuff. She someone asked about polish or something, she said something about girls wanting to be pretty. Maybe this why those scriptures about adornment only address women keeping them focus on true internal adornment.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

I've questioned if we are going against the nature of a women with the no adornment position. My small daughter wants to dress pretty and stuff. She someone asked about polish or something, she said something about girls wanting to be pretty. Maybe this why those scriptures about adornment only address women keeping them focus on true internal adornment.

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[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

I've questioned if we are going against the nature of a women with the no adornment position. My small daughter wants to dress pretty and stuff. She someone asked about polish or something, she said something about girls wanting to be pretty. Maybe this why those scriptures about adornment only address women keeping them focus on true internal adornment.

I believe it does. My daughter did her nails - and then a few days later, she said - "Why is it that I feel so much more like a girl when I have my nails done?"

It is a woman's nature to fix herself up, and I think we go against God's design when we condemn it.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

I believe it does. My daughter did her nails - and then a few days later, she said - "Why is it that I feel so much more like a girl when I have my nails done?"

It is a woman's nature to fix herself up, and I think we go against God's design when we condemn it.

Just as much as it is mans nature to have all his rowdy friends over on Monday night.

Are you ready!

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Just as much as it is mans nature to have all his rowdy friends over on Monday night.

Are you ready!

LOL.

Thankfully, that's not my husband's nature. He's not the rowdy type. He's more of the 'I'm going to go out in my workshop and build something' type.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

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It is a woman's nature to fix herself up, and I think we go against God's design when we condemn it.

I think most guys are glad that women want to fix themselves up and look good.

[Mirth1981]

Originally Posted by Sam

What do these verses really say?


1 Peter 3:3, 4

Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.KJV

Your adornment must not be merely external--braiding the hair, and wearing gold jewelry, or putting on dresses; but let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the imperishable quality of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is precious in the sight of God. NASB

Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight.. NIV

What matters is not your outer appearance—the styling of your hair, the jewelry you wear, the cut of your clothes—but your inner disposition. Cultivate inner beauty, the gentle, gracious kind that God delights in. The Message

Don’t be concerned about the outward beauty of fancy hairstyles, expensive jewelry, or beautiful clothes. You should clothe yourselves instead with the beauty that comes from within, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is so precious to God NLT

Let not yours be the [merely] external adorning with [elaborate] interweaving and knotting of the hair, the wearing of jewelry, or changes of clothes; But let it be the inward adorning and beauty of the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible and unfading charm of a gentle and peaceful spirit, which [is not anxious or wrought up, but] is very precious in the sight of God. The Amplified Bible

Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God’s sight is very precious. ESV

Do not let your adornment be merely outward—arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel— 4 rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God. NKJV

1 Timothy 2:9-10

In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. KJV

Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments, but rather by means of good works, as is proper for women making a claim to godliness. NASB

I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God. NIV

And I want women to get in there with the men in humility before God, not primping before a mirror or chasing the latest fashions but doing something beautiful for God and becoming beautiful doing it. The Message

And I want women to be modest in their appearance They should wear decent and appropriate clothing and not draw attention to themselves by the way they fix their hair or by wearing gold or pearls or expensive clothes. For women who claim to be devoted to God should make themselves attractive by the good things they do. NLT

Also [I desire] that women should adorn themselves modestly and appropriately and sensibly in seemly apparel, not with [elaborate] hair arrangement or gold or pearls or expensive clothing,But by doing good deeds (deeds in themselves good and for the good and advantage of those contacted by them), as befits women who profess reverential fear for and devotion to God. The Amplified Bible

likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works. ESV

in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works. NKJV

Even the world knows that true beauty comes from the inside, and not just from the outside. There's a new reality tv show called "True Beauty" and the basis for it is that the contestants are super models who think they will win the show based on their looks, but what they don't know is it is mostly based on their integrity and good character. I wouldn't recommend this show because it can get risque', but I did find the premise very interesting.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

I believe it does. My daughter did her nails - and then a few days later, she said - "Why is it that I feel so much more like a girl when I have my nails done?"

It is a woman's nature to fix herself up, and I think we go against God's design when we condemn it.

I wasn't raised Pentecostal and so I have been on the other side of adornment. As much as we want some to stop condemning outward adornment, I was sick of the world pushing it on me.

I know what it's like to never go out without my lip liner, always looking in the mirror when I passed by a mirror, dabbing under your eyes to make sure your mascara is not smeared, touching up the blush, never going out without my face on. Haircuts, hair dye, manicure, pedicure......

I was selling Lancome, on a part-time basis and was working the floor alone one night. I remember walking up to one of the full length mirrors and began to smear all of my makeup while saying, "I am so sick of looking at your face!" I then went back to my area, took it all off and remade myself. The pressure of all of that can be very overwhelming and tiring.

So, on the same token, I'm sick of the world making a women feel that she is unattractive if she doesn't fix up according to the world's standards. Who are they to say what we need to look like? Look like what? Something you don't look like when you take it off. I used to sleep without taking off my mascara because I didn't want to have my normal face. Sheesh! And the men that condone all of this, well, I can't say it in polite society. They are only adding to that pressure. Go grow some hair, get rid of the paunch and then come talk to us.

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I wasn't raised Pentecostal and so I have been on the other side of adornment. As much as we want some to stop condemning outward adornment, I was sick of the world pushing it on me.

I don't think anyone should push it on you, and I don't think anyone should condemn you if you like it. Some girls/women love all the extras, some don't. Be yourself.