Allow me to Think Abstractly for a Moment

[BobDylan]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

And I don't have to wonder if I have Christ in me because I received it like they did in the early church. I don't have to guess and wonder. I have been given an assurance by God.

DING DING DING!!!! Great response Mizpeh!!

[mizpeh]

06/09/10 | Wednesday: "Speaking in Tongues: Initial Evidence of Spirit Baptism," Pastor Shaw | Handout

I listened to this last week. http://www.newlifeupc.org/resources/sermon-mp3s

[Esther]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Hebrews 11
By Faith We Understand
1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

We're all very familiar with this scripture.

So, with that said, why do we feel there has to be evidence or initial evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost?

Because that is what happened on the day in Pentecost?

[Phil Stearns]

Originally Posted by Esther

Because that is what happened on the day in Pentecost?

Yes, that too.

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

06/09/10 | Wednesday: "Speaking in Tongues: Initial Evidence of Spirit Baptism," Pastor Shaw | Handout

I listened to this last week. http://www.newlifeupc.org/resources/sermon-mp3s

Mizpeh,
Thanks for posting this. I listened to most of it last night. Want to
listen again.
I loved the little poem he read, authored by Don Basham.

LORD, if I don't get what the apostles got
The way they got what they got,
Then I won't know that I got what they got.
But, LORD, if I get what they got
The way they got what they got,
Then I'll know I got what they got.

Now how many call themselves Apostolic! Are we ashamed of the gospel
of Jesus Christ, that the apostles preached. The apostle Paul taught the
same thing they preached. Jesus taught all the Apostles. The Holy Ghost
still teaches today. It agrees with the Word. But we need the Spirit of the
Living God to illuminate our minds and open our understanding to the scrip-
tures.

Falla39

[Scott Hutchinson]

I'm not going to get into a big debate here ,but I do feel that tongues are an accompanying sign of being baptized with The Holy Ghost.Also too as one grows in The Lord the fruit of The Spirit will and should be evident in the life of a spirit filled believer.

[Phil Stearns]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

I'm not going to get into a big debate here ,but I do feel that tongues are an accompanying of being baptized with The Holy Ghost.Also too as one grows in The Lord the fruit of The Spirit will and should be evident in the life of a spirit filled believer.

I believe that tongues are the initial evidence that one has received the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Do you?

[Scott Hutchinson]

Originally Posted by Phil Stearns

I believe that tongues are the initial evidence that one has received the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Do you?

Yes I do,I meant to say tongues are an accompanying sign of being baptized with The Holy Ghost.

[Scott Hutchinson]

This is a link to some writings by a Baptist preacher that got baptized in the Holy Ghost. I don't agree with everything he wrote,but he made some valid points.

http://achristiancounselor.com/tongues.html

[D. Wright]

Originally Posted by Phil Stearns

I believe that tongues are the initial evidence that one has received the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Do you?

What is the state of a person that repents, but has not spoken in tongues yet? Are they still lost?