Can we spare 5 million to build the Mosque?

[Socialite]

This is a non-story, Coadie.

They are welcome to apply for non-profit government aids along with the rest of the United States and other non-profits. They've applied. That's all that has happened.

Nothing here.. except the words "Mosque" and "Ground Zero" key stroked to fuel the emotional triggers of AFFers.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by coadie

Go ahead and tell us where the money comes from.



According to the Weekly Standard:

The application was submitted under a “community and cultural enhancement” grant program administered by the Lower Manhattan Redevelopment Corporation (LMDC), which oversaw the $20 billion in federal aid allocated in the wake of 9/11 and is currently doling out millions in remaining taxpayer funds for community development

That neither confirms these specific funds are Fed or not. Way to mince words though. Either way... all is fair. They've applied for the loans just like any non-profit would, for services that are consistent with the qualifications for these grants.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...ATE/101129980#

ALso, articles printed today by the Post and Times. Not sure who Pajama's Media is.

The money is not for the construction of the building. It's for social programs (giving back to the community in non-religious ways), an opportunity available to any church, organization, individual, etc... and it must go through a series of qualifications and, of course, receive approval. Applying is only the beginning.

He also said he is close to filing paperwork to establish Park51 as a 501c3 non profit. So they haven't even chartered a non profit and are asking for money.

LMDC activities and programs are funded through a Community Development Block Grant from United States Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD).

I guess you were wrong about Federal funds. On the LMDC website they say their money comes from the Feds

http://renewnyc.com/FundingInitiatives/

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

That neither confirms these specific funds are Fed or not. Way to mince words though. Either way... all is fair. They've applied for the loans just like any non-profit would, for services that are consistent with the qualifications for these grants.

No they haven't yet applied as any other non profit.

I posted that they still have not formed the 501 3 c corporation.

HUD Quarterly Reports

To comply with quarterly Congressional reporting requirements, HUD and the Disaster Recovery Grant Reporting System are collecting information regarding the use of Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) funds awarded under the HUD Disaster Recovery Initiative and for other program management purposes. LMDC will post this information on this website as it is updated.


HUD Quarterly Report - $783 Supplemental Funds, April 2010, approved by HUD
HUD Quarterly Report - April 2010, approved by HUD

Federal money allocated by the US Congress.

http://renewnyc.com/FundingInitiatives/HUD.aspx

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by coadie

No they haven't yet applied as any other non profit.

I posted that they still have not formed the 501 3 c corporation.

If this is true, then they wouldn't qualify for the loan they are applying for. DOH! Like I said... Non-story.

Federal money allocated by the US Congress.

http://renewnyc.com/FundingInitiatives/HUD.aspx

The money cities and states have for grants are commingled quite often. The fact that this particular grant overseer has accepted fed money doesn't cleanly connect the dots. Either way, it's the prerogative of the State to allocate the money how they deem is worthy (not the Feds). If the money is given for services provided, then that's the criteria.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by coadie

He also said he is close to filing paperwork to establish Park51 as a 501c3 non profit. So they haven't even chartered a non profit and are asking for money.

I guess you were wrong about Federal funds. On the LMDC website they say their money comes from the Feds

http://renewnyc.com/FundingInitiatives/

I was wrong about the funding, Coadie. It's HUD funding. I guess I confused it with similar programs in my own city that are often commingled. Does it really matter?????

What's the story here? That they applied for grant funds? If they aren't a 501c3, then they don't qualify for the funding. If they change their status soon, and update their application, then they are eligible... for one of 100 criteria that must be met to receive funding.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

I was wrong about the funding, Coadie. It's HUD funding. I guess I confused it with similar programs in my own city that are often commingled. Does it really matter?????

What's the story here? That they applied for grant funds? If they aren't a 501c3, then they don't qualify for the funding. If they change their status soon, and update their application, then they are eligible... for one of 100 criteria that must be met to receive funding.

The land under these properties belongs to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. They have been a client of my company since 2001.
http://www.panynj.gov/

The legal name of the Mosque development is Cordova House. The Park 51 name change was a recent attempt to clean up the appearance of this endeavor.

[canam]

Ya and theyll comingle this right into the building fund and any other fund they want to ,send a little oversea to al queda etc. etc. No way its a non story.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by canam

Ya and theyll comingle this right into the building fund and any other fund they want to ,send a little oversea to al queda etc. etc. No way its a non story.

On Dec the poor Muslims can hire the Salvation bell ringers and have their own bell wringing.

The comingling is about as illegal as it gets for federal grants. They will partner but comingling is forbidden.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by coadie

On Dec the poor Muslims can hire the Salvation bell ringers and have their own bell wringing.

The comingling is about as illegal as it gets for federal grants. They will partner but comingling is forbidden.

What the heck are you even talking about?????

A group has applied for a loan under the provisions of the 5013c. That's all that has happened. This group, like any religious group, can offer social services to the community in a non-religious way just like any other group. If they qualify, they get money. If they don't, they are declined.

What's all the whining about?