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Old 10-27-2014, 09:41 AM
Aquila Aquila is offline
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe

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I'm votivesoul, i.e. Aaron. I was thanking Esaias from an earlier post.

I'm not going to openly agree or disagree as to the merits of your expressed position on the nature of Christ.

I merely point out that your expressed position on the nature of Christ is not traditional Oneness as it has been embraced and understood for decades. You have modified the term, if you use it to describe your views.

I submit that one need not to adopt and modify the term in order to describe their views. Use a different term so that the term in question can continue to mean what it has always meant, else the purpose of even having the term and using it becomes superfluous.
Thanks for clarifying Votivesoul, I mean Aaron. Love you bro.

What if I told you that every statement listed below (which I've posted in previous posts) were directly taken from, THE ONENESS OF GOD, by Rev. David K. Bernard, chapter 5, The Son of God... and is mandatory reading for all UPCI ministers?

Would they be "traditional Oneness" understandings then??? LOL!
"That Jesus had a complete human nature and complete divine nature at the same time is the teaching of Scripture, but we cannot separate these two natures in His earthly life. It is apparent that Jesus had a human will, mind, spirit, soul, and body, but it is equally apparent that He had the fullness of the Godhead resident in that body. From our finite view, His human spirit and His divine Spirit were inseparable." - Rev. David K. Bernard, The Oneness of God

"The divine Spirit could be separated from the human body by death, but His humanity was more than a human body – the shell of a human – with God inside. He was a human in body, soul, and spirit with the fullness of the Spirit of God dwelling in that body, soul, and spirit. Jesus differed from an ordinary human (who can be filled with the Spirit of God) in that He had all of God’s nature within Him. He possessed the unlimited power, authority, and character of God. Furthermore, in contrast to a born-again, Spirit-filled human, the Spirit of God was inextricably, and inseparably joined with the humanity of Jesus." - Rev. David K. Bernard, The Oneness of God

"The humanity of Christ prayed, cried, learned obedience, and suffered. The divine nature was in control and God was faithful to His own plan, but the human nature had to obtain help from the Spirit and, had to learn obedience to the divine plan. Surely all these verses of Scripture show that Jesus was fully human – that He had every attribute of humanity except the sinful nature inherited from the Fall. If we deny the humanity of Jesus, we encounter a problem with the conception of redemption and atonement. Not being fully human, could His sacrifice be sufficient to redeem mankind? Could He really be a true substitute for us in death? Could He truly qualify as our kinsman redeemer?" - Rev. David K. Bernard, The Oneness of God

"The Word or Logos can mean the plan or thought as it existed in the mind of God. This thought was a predestined plan – an absolutely certain future event, - and therefore it had a reality attached to it that no human thought could ever have. The Word can also mean the plan or thought of God expressed in the flesh, that is in the Son." - Rev. David K. Bernard, The Oneness of God

"The deity in the Son is the Father, we do believe that the Father is in the Son (John 14:10 . Since Jesus is the name of the Son of God, both as to His deity as Father and as to His humanity as Son, it is the name of both the Father and the Son." - Rev. David K. Bernard, The Oneness of God
So, what makes me an "untraditional Oneness" believer who can be labeled "Unitarian" for embracing what has been taught by the leading Oneness apologist of this century?


Last edited by Aquila; 10-27-2014 at 09:49 AM.
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