If the Long Hair is a covering

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Wow, there are so many inaccuracies in this post I don't know where to start!

For starters, the Greek word for 'shorn' isn't 'razer (or razor)'.

You are right...I meant the greek word for SHAVON (er shaven)
xuraō
xoo-rah'-o
From a derivative of the same as G3586 (meaning a razor); to shave or "shear" the hair: - shave.

Samson didn't have a Nazarite vow. He was born a Nazarite. There is a difference in the two.

Wrong. NazaRITE...is a person who has this vow

Nazirite
naz´i-rīt (נזיר, nāzīr, connected with נדר, nādhar, "to vow"; ναζείρ, nazeír, ναζειραῖος, nazeiraíos, as also various words indicating "holiness" or "devotion"; the King James Version, Nazarite):

He was a nazirite because God told his mother that is what he was to be and not to cut his hair. This is in keeping with the nazirite vow,

Jdg 13:4 Therefore be careful and drink no wine or strong drink, and eat nothing unclean,
Jdg 13:5 for behold, you shall conceive and bear a son. No razor shall come upon his head, for the child shall be a Nazirite to God from the womb, and he shall begin to save Israel from the hand of the Philistines."
Jdg 13:6 Then the woman came and told her husband, "A man of God came to me, and his appearance was like the appearance of the angel of God, very awesome. I did not ask him where he was from, and he did not tell me his name,
Jdg 13:7 but he said to me, 'Behold, you shall conceive and bear a son. So then drink no wine or strong drink, and eat nothing unclean, for the child shall be a Nazirite to God from the womb to the day of his death.'"

While you are correct that those who were Nazarite or took a vow weren't to cut their hair, when they did, they removed the hair completely (as you state above), not simply had a trim.

Right....we are in agreement. The point was though that no razer shall come upon his head...why? Nazirites were to NEVER cut their hair. The issue is razer, head, uncut hair. The issue is not, when they are to cut their hair do they just trim it or shave it all off

Yes, shorn is the past tense of shear, but shear doesn't simply mean 'to cut'. It's a type of cut, and Strong's puts is this way:

of shearing or cutting short the hair of the head

I think that is Thayers, Strongs I have just says shear. When I am at home I can take a deeper look. Im really looking at a different word though
both words here refer to cutting hair so I am wondering if these words can't be used simply to mean cut but HAVE to mean only shave bald then what greek word would be used merely to trim the hair?

When sheep are shorn, their hair is removed. When hair is cut short, it's considered shorn.

Normally I'd agree and in the past this was my position, however shorn comes from shear and a shear is a pair of scissors. This is an old english term and the term means to cut. When we shear or cut the wool of sheep we cut it all off...that's just the standard practice to get the wool for clothing and such.

That is not true for anyone who gets a haircut, yet this is what you are suggesting. The verses that refer to Corinthian women having their heads shorn or shaven has nothing to do with a Nazarite vow, nor the customs involved.

Im not suggesting anything. Im being plain and factual....the greek word for shaven is "razor" and I noted how razor is used for nazirites to indicate their hair was not to be cut at all...not merely shaved.

I never said the verses in Cor had ANYTHING to do with the nazirite vow and if anyone thinks that they missed the point I was making