The Slippery Emergent Slope

[notofworks]

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Originally Posted by notofworks

No argument from me. I agree. I remember the words of Jesus when he emphasized the word "few," in his discourse when he said, "...few there be that find it."

••And of course, this is the default verse for those that believe there are many going to hell and few going to heaven. But when Jesus said these things, was he referring to the subject we're discussing or was there something more he was talking about? IOW, was it as simple as, "Most are gonna burn, and a chosen, special few get to be winners"?

I'm not sure how such statics could be compiled, even if they could be. I doubt it.

••Agreed. The 57,000,000 deaths per year is a verified stat. The other is just a guess based on OP population numbers....a VERY generous guess.

I dunno. I sometimes wished that I was God. But he wont let me. If it was up to me, everyone would be saved....'cept that ol' debil that has caused me and the world so much trouble.

••The devil has, but "Greater is He.......".

I have no way of knowing what God is thinking. I suspect there are degrees of torment...since Jesus used the words "torments." But, what do I know? I'm just a poor E. Texas redneck tending to my little Pea Patch. I leave to God his own eternal plan for the eons to come.

••Just once as it pertains to eternity (Luke 16:23), and there, it says that the rich man was "in torments" (KJV) which indicates only one person was spoken of, which would seem to eliminate different torments for different people and would seem to indicate that the rich man was being tormented in more than one way.

I would never in the least suggest that God is unjust. Be it far from me. God is good, just and righteous. However, I am aware that God sends no one to hell. Hell was prepared for the devil and his angels. If a man goes there, he goes there as a trespasser.

••Nor would I suggest that God is unjust, and I don't believe He is, which is why I think the scope of God's grace is much wider than we suspect. As for the bolded...I know it's spun that way but if there is an intense gun battle happening in my front yard and someone frantically knocks on my door asking for entrance, and I refuse, wouldn't I be "sending" them into the spray of bullets?