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Originally Posted by notofworks
••And of course, this is the default verse for those that believe there are many going to hell and few going to heaven. But when Jesus said these things, was he referring to the subject we're discussing or was there something more he was talking about? IOW, was it as simple as, "Most are gonna burn, and a chosen, special few get to be winners"?
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From Matt. 7:14 he was talking about the few that would find the strait gate that leads to LIFE. Other than that, what do you think?
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••Just once as it pertains to eternity (Luke 16:23), and there, it says that the rich man was "in torments" (KJV) which indicates only one person was spoken of, which would seem to eliminate different torments for different people and would seem to indicate that the rich man was being tormented in more than one way.
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Of course.
There was no one else involved in the conversation between father Abraham and Lazrus. There was no reason to address the whole underworld of the eternally doomed. That one case is given as a principle. Why should each and every doomed individual been spoken to concerning each of their cases? One is enough to understand the principle, IMHO.
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••Nor would I suggest that God is unjust, and I don't believe He is, which is why I think the scope of God's grace is much wider than we suspect. As for the bolded...I know it's spun that way but if there is an intense gun battle happening in my front yard and someone frantically knocks on my door asking for entrance, and I refuse, wouldn't I be "sending" them into the spray of bullets?
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You spoke to my point. As you have stated, "to everyone that knocks the door is opened." There are conditions that are attached. The one escaping the hail of bullets in your front yard, must first knock. The door is opened. Next, he must enter in at the door. Jesus said that he was the door to the sheepfold. Everyone that enters in must enter in by the door.
I think your gun battle illustration speaks to the point quite well.
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