Is Welfare a Right?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Jfrog makes some good points though I disagree that I would not give more if my tax burden was less.

I am not anti Welfare entirely though I question whether it should be run on any federal or even state level. It is best administered by those closest the population in need. The abuse issue is huge, but the greater abuse Is governmental, and occurs through the layered administrative bureaucracy which is built around and thrives on "the poor".

Free education is not a right either, though the Occupy crowd somehow wants to imply guilt on others for the loans they they willingly made.

I'm sure some would give more if we weren't taxed to pay for welfare (probably a lot fewer than try to claim they would). But even you are hesitant to say you would give all or even most of that extra money you would gain from that tax being discontinued. So with the little extra you and some other would give, would it be enough to support all those who would be in legitimate need?

I think welfare cannot work on any level but the federal level. Let's create a ficticious United States where a welfare tax is only implemented in New York for New York. Once implemented there would be a massive emmigration of wealthy people from New York to the surrounding states. Also poor people from other states will attempt to relocate to New York to take advantage of their welfare system. Thus New York will be forced to end its welfare system due to the high influx of new people on the system and high outflux of the tax money that is paying for the system. So in my mind the only real way to implement a welfare system is on a national level (at least the tax to pay for it must be on a national level).