Is Welfare a Right?

[Jay]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Ever wonder if people asked the same question about Education? Ever wonder if people asked the same question about freedom of speech? Ever wonder if people asked the same question about countless other rights that we deem as apparent and undeniable?

My question is: what morally depraved people would rather see people starve and freeze to death than to see the abuse of a welfare system? It's one thing if such a system cannot be financed It's another if it can be financed and we as a nation choose not to. I think the question shouldn't be whether it's their right to have a welfare system.. Instead I think the question should be whether its our moral duty to provide such a system... and I think the answer to that question is a resounding yes!

You are making a fallacious argument. Nobody has made an argument for allowing people to die in the streets from lack of food, shelter, or warmth. The basic argument is that at the very least it is not a problem for the United States government to handle. We have seen what it has brought us since its inception. We now have higher poverty rates, more single parent families, more irresponsible parents, more drugs, more depressed, suicidal, and murderous children larger slums, deeper debt.

And what did we get in for the other side of the bargain?

Affordable healthcare, not on this planet. Better jobs, in our dreams. Better education, not here. Greater compassion for the truly poor, not really. More generosity, you must be joking.

The advent of our welfare state has destroyed everything that we had worked so hard to build. In fact, we keep adding to the welfare roles. Tarp was welfare for failing businesses. The 'bailout' was welfare for failing banks. That 'loan' to the care manufacturers was a giant welfare check. It is time to end the welfare state, pluck it up by its greedy, sinful, wicked, and immoral roots and cast in the pig sty of historically failed ideas.