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Originally Posted by bishoph
IMHO the truth of the matter is that most "Trinitarians" are oneness. In other words, if you ask them how many God's there are they will say ONE. If you ask them how many they will see in heaven, most will say ONE. A few who don't really understand may say three but that is rare among the congregants. Now when it comes to preachers, teachers, and other more learned or indoctrinated leaders is when you really see the three in one defended and promoted.
Again, MHO is that where the Trinitarian doctrine becomes an exceedingly dangerous and damnedable doctrine for the masses is: that while by and large they see/understand only one God, the baptism is tainted with the DNA of false doctrine.
There is only ONE baptism that is right according to scripture. I didn't say it the scriptures declare it. A friend of mine recently published a book entitled "Everybody Can't be Right" and I agree. Is there more of God I need? Absolutely! Is there more that I need to learn of his Word? Absolutely! Have I ever been wrong on something concerning faith and doctrine? Absolutely! Is it possible that I am wrong in declaring that there is only one way to be saved? Absolutely NOT!
What about those over the last 2000 years that did not know/practice what we know/practice? Not my concern! I am only responsible for what I know is truth from the Word of God. I am not the judge of the whole earth, but I am responsible to be obedient to what I know.
And if we want to follow that line of reasoning......God has always made a way for everyone who will to believe/obey him unto salvation. With Noah's generation grace preached righteousness and a warning to the people, they could have gotten on the ark.....when they didn't they were excluded and perished. With the children of Israel who were under the law, grace allowed any "stranger" to convert and serve the one true God......for those that chose not to.....they were excluded and perished. We come to the church age, and God puts forth his redemptive plan and details how we can accept it. Those who do will be saved, all others will be excluded and lost. It's not his will, and it certainly is not mine......Just like Jesus, I wish all would come repentance and know HIM.
But whether a man is saved or lost who died after say 150AD and before 1900AD and did not know/understand/or follow the biblical doctrine of salvation, has no bearing on my obedience or salvation. If God damns all of them to hell because HIS Word was declared and they refused to obey, or whether they never heard the message at all and he sends them to hell it does not negate my responsibility to obey truth. And if God allows all of them into heaven because they did not know and they walked in "all the light they knew" it still does not alter my responsibility to obey HIS Word.
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Simply not addressing the very very huge problem of the invisibility of the Church of Jesus Christ before 1913 doesn't make the problem go away. Either the Church of Jesus Christ was alive and well before 1913 or it wasn't. If it was, the Church was alive and well apart from the salvation doctrine of the oneness pentecostal sect which suddenly appeared in 1913. If in fact the Church was dead and buried for almost 2000 years, until it's sudden resurrection in 1913, then that presents yet another problem.
The truth is this, the Church of Jesus Christ was alive and well long before the sudden appearance of oneness pentecostalism in 1913 and is far larger than the relatively tiny little sect of oneness pentecostalism of today.
Oneness pentecostals aren't the sole representatives or members of the Church of Jesus Christ. Some oneness pentecostals are slowly recognizing that, others keep their heads stuck in the sand of ignorance.
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