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Originally Posted by renee819
Did you ever notice how Jesus changes subjects? Don't tell me that verse 19 is not about prayer. What are they praying about? The offence? They could, but Jesus said, ANYTHING, That word and the word AGAIN, shows that He has changed the subject temporarily.
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Jesus wasn't changing subjects here! Verse 19 and 20 are a reiteration of verses 15-18. Verse 19 is about the binding and loosing, and deals with the fault and how the brother in fault responds. Yes, they are agreeing and asking concerning the trespass.
The word "Again" does not mean Jesus changed the subject; it just means He is re-emphasizing His point. It's funny you missed the part of your own definition of "again" where it speaks of repetition. Furthermore, do you understand what "furthermore" means? It doesn't mean to change the subject. It's means to give addition to the present subject.
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Originally Posted by renee819
Again (FURTHER MORE—-ON THE OTHER HAND) I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, (THE CONTEXT IS---AGREE AND PRAY ABOUT---ANYTHING)
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The context is not agree and pray about anything. Context is what surrounds the verse in question.
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Who can do this? “If two of you!” Then Jesus goes on to say, “For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.”
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Jesus isn't with you when you pray alone? When you ask God for something in your solitary time of prayer, He's not with you and doesn't answer?
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Originally Posted by renee819
Jesus has switched the subject, Peter, brings it back to the original subject of trespasses, in verse 21. it could have been at the same time, or it could have been the next day.
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Again, as stated previously, Jesus did not change the subject.
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What has the 2 or 3 witness's got to do with the 2 praying about ANYTHING? Or 2 or 3 meeting in the name of Jesus and He promises to be in their midst.?
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Read
Deuteronomy 19:15-21. The witnesses stood before the Lord, the priests and judges. The judgement or pardon was done before the Lord, just as the binding and loosing is done in
Matthew 18.
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If they were going to pray about the trespasses, and in answer to their prayer Jesus shows them who the guilty party is, then why do they need 2 or 3 witness's? The 2 or 3 witnesses, could even be non-Christians, that saw the sin committed.
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Where in those verses does it say Jesus shows them who the guilty party is? Don't add to the verse to try and prove your point. It says nothing about Jesus showing them who it is; this is why the 2 or 3 witnesses is required.