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Originally Posted by Baron1710
Water/Spirit preachers ignore the cross, and the "easy believeism" demonstrated there by Jesus. You must Repent, You must be baptized, You must speak in tongues. Salvation is all about what YOU do, and if You haven't done these things there is no room in the kingdom for you. They do not rely on the finished work of the cross, they focus on their steps. One...two...three...now you are saved...well if you continue to dress right...pay your tithes...attend church 4 times a week...obey every nonsense rule the pastor makes up and calls it Biblical...yep it is all about the cross.
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Again, nonsense. I believe in 'water/spirit', apparently you do not believe in the water or the spirit. I have preached (I do not claim to be a preacher, but I did preach a campmeeting, and also in a UPC once as a guest preacher. I have also taught bible studies.) I FIRMLY believe that unless one is born again of water and spirit one cannot enter the kingdom of God (one won't even see it, let alone enter it...).
And EVERY time I preached or taught it was THE CROSS, the BLOOD, the RESURRECTION.
The 'Christ event' (death and resurrection) is not just a theological article of faith, it is a spiritual REALITY that must be entered into if one is to have any hope of escaping their sins and damnation, and participating in the Life of God now and in eternity.
And water baptism and spiritual baptism are the means God has chosen to bring us into that spiritual reality, via faith in God according to THE WORD preached by the apostles.
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