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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
Ask Jesus. Ask Paul. I don't know. I didn't make the rule book.
Romans 8:13 "For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live."
The spirit was given to us to mortify the deeds of the body, so obviously something is not completely, totally dead. However, if the Spirit reigns in our life, the law of sin doesn't, and we can live above recurrent fallen sin, but we must be aware of the attacks of our flesh nature or satan to try to make us stumble and fall.... and so therefore we are given the Spirit to "mortify the deeds of the body" and by doing so, we shall live. |
I love that verse like many other verses in the bible it does not mean a daily death but a one time event. Look at the meaning of the word mortify:
Thayer's dictionary G2289
I.
to put to death
II.metaph.
A.to make to die i.e. destroy,
render extinct
B.by death to be liberated from the bond of anything,
literally to be made dead in relation to (something)
There is no daily death here rather. I agree that a christian still has a sinful nature but that same christian needs to be sanctified but when that christian gets sanctified they do not have a carnal nature.
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
Paul also says this, Romans 7:24-25 "O wretched man that I am! Who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh, the law of sin."
Our minds, spirit and soul serve the Lord, while our flesh nature remains in the hold of sin, and it is a warfare, but through the spirit of Jesus Christ, we can mortify the deeds of the body, and continue serving the law of God. |
I agree that after we are saved and before we are sanctified we are in a
Romans 7 experience but let a man/woman get snactified and they will move from a
Romans 7 experience to a
Romans 8 experience( GLORY). They will go from groaning
Romans 7:25 to shouting
Romans 8:2!!!!!
Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus
hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Thayer's dictionary G1659
I.to make free
II.set at liberty: from the dominion of sin
Strong's dictionary G1659
From G1658; to liberate, that is, (figuratively) to exempt (from moral,
ceremonial or mortal liability): -deliver, make free.
In chapter 8 I am freed and liberated from what had me bound in chapter 7. (GLORY)
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