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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
Indeed, the Pharisaical mindset persists in our midst today. The elevation of the ministry is what the Pharisees stood for... yet Christ came to overturn that. We are all equal in Christ... all members of the same body. We have different functions, talents, and gifts, but that makes us no less, or greater in Christ. In fact, Jesus called us to serve one another. Not to BE SERVED, but to serve one another. We are all equal in Christ.
Yet, the Pharisees are still having their way today in the way that ministers somehow consider themselves "elite" and above the rest of the body of Christ. That was the way of the Pharisees, and it is still with us today, even though Jesus brought in a new way for the church to function... but many still try to hold onto that principle and mindset, much to their own detriment.
Which is why we are continuing to have a debate such as this one lags on for thousands of posts.... because some people persist in believing that they are above the rest of the body of Christ. CHRIST is our head, and the rest of us are the members. We are all to submit to the HEAD, which is Christ, yet, all working together to perform the various functions of the body.
But, there are those who will always persist in the mentality that the thumb is greater than the rest of the hand, that the mouth is better than the rest of the five senses, and so on.
Oh yes, the Pharisaical mindset is alive and well. Thank God that a few of us have seen and realized that it was indeed the Pharisees who crucified Christ, trying to destroy what Christ came to do, but Jesus prevailed, in spite of their mentality steeped in tradition.
Things are no different today. Different packaging, different rules, different interpretations, but the same Pharisaical principle applying throughout the ages.
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Since it seems you have aimed this rant at me I kindly ask you to document your assertion.
Please document where I consider myself "elite".
Please document where I have a "Pharisaical mindset".
Please document where I believe I "am above" everyone else.
Then there are the false statements about Christ. Specifically the intimation that we do not need pastors. This is intimated IMO from the statement "CHRIST is our head, and the rest of us are the members. We are all to submit to the HEAD, which is Christ, yet, all working together to perform the various functions of the body." It seems to me you have missed the whole reason God gave everyone the
gift of a pastor.
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Eph 4:8 KJV) Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
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Eph 4:9 KJV) (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
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Eph 4:10 KJV) He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
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Eph 4:11 KJV) And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
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Eph 4:12 KJV) For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
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Eph 4:13 KJV) Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
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Eph 4:14 KJV) That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
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Eph 4:15 KJV) But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
By denying the role of the Pastor, God's gift to the church, you deny the perfection that comes through it and denigrates the gift God gave. It is arrogance to assume a pastor is not needed. It is arrogance to reject God's gift as though you know more than God.
All of this because of 1 woman who should know better.
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