Why Do You Believe Jesus is God?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by mfblume

That is not dealing with the issue! What is it with you guys? lol

Now you are avoiding it.

I already said that Revelation 22 has a verse proving that the angel was not Jesus, but was quoting Jesus. We read that JESUS SENT HIS ANGEL.

Revelation 22:16 KJV I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Now, why would the ALPHA AND OMEGA say he is the ALMIGHTY? And then say He was dead and is alive?

Do you not believe the ALMIGHTY IS GOD?

Stop acting like we are not dealing with that passage. That's silly. What I just stated was dealing with your proposed evidence. Now let me answer your objection to my proposed answer, that the angel was quoting Jesus in Revelation 22. Let's take it verse by verse.

6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done. (So the angel is quoting Jesus here when he references the Lord God sending his angel)

7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. (The angel is quoting Jesus saying he will come quickly)

8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. (John worships the angel)

9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. (The angel speaks for the angel and tells John not to worship him)

10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. (The angel goes back to speaking for Jesus)

11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. (Still speaking for Jesus)

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. (Still speaking for Jesus)

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. (Still speaking for Jesus)

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. (Still speaking for Jesus)

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. (Still speaking for Jesus)

16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. (Still speaking for Jesus)

Okay, Your explanation makes sense. However, you just gave me the greatest counter to Revelation 1:8 and any other passages where you claim Jesus speaks as if he is God. Let me give you a sample:

Revelation 1:8 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. (Explanation: This passage is Jesus speaking for God)

So now just like the claim the angel was speaking for Jesus when the angel makes a claim you believe should only apply to Jesus, just like that I am going to claim that if Jesus makes a claim that sounds like something that should only apply to God that Jesus was simply speaking for God just like you claim the angel was speaking for Jesus. Consistency I love thee soo...