Sword at the entrance

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I already said satan has no relation to this issue, since the faith in the work of the cross to save by eradicating our good works, through eradication of self-righteousness that produces good works, cannot apply to the devil.

now you have gone to outright eradication of good works, rather than an understanding that they are what differentiates belief and faith? You say "satan has no relation," but the Bible says "satan believes, too." How is a believer's belief any different from satan's, iow?

Originally Posted by mfblume

Faith and believing are the same scripturally.

well, faith and belief may be used synonymously, yes; however there is a difference in believing something, and having faith in it, as satan's "belief" shows. So we are seeking how they differ, not how they are the same.

Originally Posted by mfblume

You are not trying to outright disagree, but are just trying to circumvent the cross for our righteousness. You stumble at the cross.

you say that, but it just may be that i am trying to hold you to a better definition of the Cross, albeit a more painful one. Otherwise how could Scripture so boldly proclaim...all those verses that bug you, culminating in a very plain "DO NOT BE DECEIVED, LITTLE CHILDREN?" without all of the caveats that we place upon salvation?