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Old 06-05-2017, 10:25 AM
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Re: How old do you think the universe is?

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My point is that LIFE for some reason is always said to be created, not made. The bodies have DNA. But our life is not God. I cannot agree with that. His Spirit is Life and getting His actual Spirit in us is not the same as having natural life. Natural life can die. God cannot die.
Where does it say that life is always created? You implying that from its "usage" in a few places, and as Esaias has already stated it is not always used as created from nothing.

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And I do not believe the spirit of man is eternal either. Eternal has no beginning, and our human spirits had a beginning.
Do you believe that we are eternal? Eternity as I understand it is has no beginning nor end.

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Acts 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being
There is a lot that I do not know and I am speaking my own ideas that are based upon scritptures that come to me. IMHO

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What I guess I'm trying to say is that LIFE is always associated with creation. Even the Psalm that parallels Genesis 1 in the same sequence notes life was created by earth was RENEWED.

Psalms 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.
Are you not basing that from usage?


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DNA belongs to the body. But LIFE is something aside from even that. It is created.
I interpret life as being given rather than created. Creation is just the finished product.

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That does not prove our spirits are God's life.
I prefer to say our life is from God's Spirit.

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I cannot see where there is foundation for saying man's life always existed because it is from God.
It is the breath of life that God breathed. The word breath/n šâmâ is also used in places as Spirit. I should say that is the Spirit of God that came into man to give him life. The Spirit of God is where our life comes and that Spirit of God is eternal (no, begining no end).

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Again the issue is whether or not it is true that bara means to create from nothing and asa means to form already existing material.
The Biblical usage indicates that it does not.

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