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Old 11-25-2017, 02:04 PM
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Re: Pre trib rapture teaching is heresy

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Options for the Man of Sin:

1. Jews rebuild a temple. Global political and/or religious leader performs miraculous signs, enters the temple, and announces to the world via CNN or Twitter that he is the Supreme Being all humans have been worshipping. The world loves it and throws a parade.

Problem: A rebuilt Jewish temple could not be "the temple OF GOD." The NT teaches that the church is the temple of God.

Problem: He would have nowhere to "sit" unless he brought in a chair?

Problem: The vast majority of earth's population would NEVER submit to some world dictator ruling from a JEWISH temple. No Muslim would. No Eastern Orthodox would. Most Roman Catholics would reject him. These alone cover over 2/3rds of the world population. Only hokey dispensationalists and some hyper Orthodox Jews would believe it, and the dispensationalists would all be wondering where the rapture went. Half of Jewry opposes any attempt to rebuild a Temple anyway. Its just not workable.

2. The pope.

Problem: The pope rules the RCC (in name only, he's not actually in charge of anything, that would be the cardinals and Old Roman nobility). The RCC is not the temple of God.

3. Unknown Jew in the 60s AD.

Problem: Huh?

4. Clericalism itself.

Problem: None, it fits ALL data points about "the man of sin".

Well if you think it's not going to be an actual "man of sin", or "son of perdition" then how do you explain Rev. 13:1-10?

The scriptures clearly tell us that the beast will be GIVEN the power, the throne and great authority from the dragon/satan himself.

"The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority."

Notice the scripture says "him/his", so it goes from beast, to him/his. Can't we interpret that as meaning it will be a physical human being, a man?

Now if the scriptures say this man will be GIVEN all this power, throne, and authority from satan and it will be GRANTED to him, to make war and overcome the saints and he will have authority over every tribe, tongue, and nation AND ALL who dwell on the earth WILL worship him, whose names are not written.

Shouldn't we believe what the scriptures say? Even though we may not understand the who, how, and when? Rev. is obviously full of symbols, prophecies, and spiritual meanings that are very easily misinterpreted, but I believe if we see an actual human man (in a position of authority let's say) be mortally wounded in his head and be miraculously healed, we better pay attention!

7-8 "It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."

One of the powers of satan is deception of the whole world! This 'man of sin' will have the same power to deceive ALL the nations!

Rev. 12:9

"So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

Didn't Jesus say to Pontius Pilate that he would have no power over Him unless it was GIVEN to him from above?

John 19:11

"Jesus answered, “You could have no power at all against Me unless it had been given you from above. Therefore the one who delivered Me to you has the greater sin.”

Didn't Hitler rise up and take control over a whole nation and try to conquer the whole world? Imagine Hitler times a thousand!

Many, many things go on in this physical world that started in the spiritual realm, many of those things decreed and ordained by God Himself!

Yes sir, I believe we will actually live to see the "man of sin" bka "The antichrist" and I also believe there will be a peace treaty signed for Israel and Palestine, and that they will indeed build a physical third temple on the mount where the Dome of the Rock now sits, likely side by side, only time will tell!

Until then we can debate, discuss, and disagree! But one thing we all need to do is be sure we're in the faith and make sure our souls are in right standing with the Most High God! Because many things can happen when we least expect them!
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