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Re: Most complex explanation of the Godhead ever!
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
The Apostle John had no comprehension about what ancient Greek philosophers believed. He was teaching about something that was WITH GOD in the OT and simultaneously WAS GOD.
The word "logo" is from logos. What is a logo?
Think about a business. They make a little emblem or "picture" they put on documents or advertisements. When people see THE LOGO they think about the business.
The logo is not the business but it REPRESENTS the business.
The logo that was with God was not God in omnipresence but God in {visible} expression. His REPRESENTATION to the Universe.
The last thing the Spirit was trying to teach the Church was Greek philosophy.
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
So I must say I feel sorry for the followers of Elder Treece. How could anyone listen to or read all of that? Hardly any of it seems to connect people to what John was talking about. It seems like a maze of trying to figure out the Bible through mens ideas rather than studying the writings of the Apostles and Prophets.
I would agree with the name of the thread.
The Most Complicated Explanation Of The Godhead Ever!
Of the 3 videos by the plan/thought teachers nothing seems to have an answer. It seems to lead us to nowhere. A newborn Christian should not have to be subjected to all that philosophy to be able to understand one Bible verse.
In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and God was the word. John 1:1
I admit the teaching of the Godhead is VERY DEEP. The deepest subject in the Universe. If we could COMPLETELY understand the truth of God we would be as wise as he.
It grieves my spirit to hear the majestic and glorious LOGOS reduced down to mere "thought" or "plan". Its like taking the heart out of the Old Testament.
Think of the Logos like this.
The omnipresent Spirit forms an image for some of his eternal life to dwell in. This form is HIS SPOKESMEN. His expressed word.
When the omnipresent Spirit spoke to angels or men his words came out of the Spirit into the Logos and then to their intended audience whoever it may be.
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The audience was a Hellenized Judean and Roman world which knew the language far greater than you or I.
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