Saved Without A Pastor??

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Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Please show me where it says anywhere that a pastor has the rule over you, or me. Then explain how this passage of scripture below reconciles with your doctrine.

Bible, King James Version

Matt.20 Verses 25 to 28

[25] But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
[26] But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
[27] And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:
[28] Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many



I'm glad you asked. God is talking to the Hebrews who were about to be taken into Babylonian captivity. If you can produce scripture saying otherwise, I'd be glad to see it.



In that case you'd better get to sacrificing bulls and goats.




The soul that you reference above is not referring to the immortal soul IMO. It is referring to your life. This is distinguished from the rational immortal soul, according to Strong's. It appears to mean human life, as it does many times, but not always in the Bible.



I love Brother Benincsa, but I have a much greater advocate than he.

All this you said is all ridiculous. So you believe that the teacher, prophet, evangelist, and the apostle, and pastor will give account for your soul in a committee setting to God? And secondly who are they, do you even have 1 of the 5 fold ministry you submit to in your walk? I know the answer but I'm waiting.