Saved Without A Pastor??

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Ummm. Who are these? "Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God."

Please show me where it says anywhere that a pastor has the rule over you, or me. Then explain how this passage of scripture below reconciles with your doctrine.

Bible, King James Version

Matt.20 Verses 25 to 28

[25] But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
[26] But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
[27] And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:
[28] Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Who is this "And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding." Because He's foreshadowing something to come and you cant believe He's saying for the Jews and not the Gentiles. He's talking about the Apostles and the Bible,

I'm glad you asked. God is talking to the Hebrews who were about to be taken into Babylonian captivity. If you can produce scripture saying otherwise, I'd be glad to see it.

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Anytime it refers to them it's referring to us, because we've been grafted in.

In that case you'd better get to sacrificing bulls and goats.

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

There is a 5 fold ministry but there is also Pastors in His church after His own heart. These watch for your soul. So on judgement day do you believe that they are going to have a panel of Evangelist, prophets, teachers, a apostle, and a pastor to give account for you?

The soul that you reference above is not referring to the immortal soul IMO. It is referring to your life. This is distinguished from the rational immortal soul, according to Strong's. It appears to mean human life, as it does many times, but not always in the Bible.

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Well if you believe that ain't wonder what Evangelist Benincasa is going to say on your behalf?

I love Brother Benincsa, but I have a much greater advocate than he.