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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
What Jesus said needs not be changed. The difference between Jesus and Paul and you all is they wept and mourned over the Jewish people and nation at the same time they were reproving them.
You all have NOTHING but scorn for them.
Here is why I believe there is a spirit of despising the Jews at work here.
1. They dont believe there are ANY real physical Jews of Abrahams seed today. They are all hybrids.
2. The nation of Israel is a rogue state created by the United Nations. It has no right to exist just like Islam teaches.
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Its amazing with all our drumbeating for "Truth" when some of us point some things out...inconsistencies, false doctrine etc how we get lambasted and its automatically assumed that we have the worst of intentions while those who are bringing the accusations have the best...
See Mike...you've gone from addressing the facts of the argument presented to besmirching the intentions and character of those with differing positions than you hold.
Dead branch removed...new branch grafted in.
Pointing out scriptural and illogical inconsistencies are not hate.
I dont automatically abandon an idea just because someone else I dont agree with holds the same view as you seem to suggest we do by drawing some really threadbare "connections" with B & E's and Muslim views on the modern state of Israel.
Thats like saying,"Hitler likes dogs....Will likes dogs...so Will must be Hitler."
If you're gonna be intellectually dishonest like that*and I know you didnt compare them to Hitler but come on....we all know what you were doing* maybe this isnt the right argument for you.
The modern state of Israel as it was formed by the Balfour Declaration is NOT the same as Biblical Israel.
You need to do some independent research outside of Zionist propaganda and maybe listen to some debates where other arguments are presented.
Im not hating anyone and neither is anyone else and I dont wish for the deaths of anyone.
Mike, let me ask you something.
If I were to present quotes, facts and records of some truly reprehensible things that Israel has done...would it even matter to you or would you justify it no matter what because you believe that they have to be around for the final act?