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Old 06-15-2007, 07:01 AM
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No, I don't agree because Jesus' status as the Son doesn't apply to His divinity. The SON was begotten; divinity cannot be begotten because it is, by its very nature eternal. As the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed indicates, Jesus (in terms of His divinity) is the same substance as the Father.



Firstly Chan, I'd cetainly agree with you that deity (GOD / YHWH) is unbegotten. However, if he Son possesses two natures of deity and flesh which are distinct and unmixed (unfused) then, the Son can therefore be begotten (in his flesh) and unbegotten (in his deity) at the very same time. So the term Son can refer to both natures (deity and humanity) and refer to his being as the Son both begotten and not begotten as well as his possessing every divine attribute (as the SON whio is God) and not possessing any divine attributes as the Son who is a mere man.

Secondly, you’ve really only claimed that like any Unitarian, JW or Christadelphian, you only ascribe deity to the Father, who alone is YHWH God and the possessor of divine attributes in your theology. The Son according to you isn’t an eternal Son (John 17:5), isn’t the creator of the universe (Hebrews 1:2), isn’t omnipresent (John 14:23) but is a creature made by the Father who’s just as much a part of the creation as you or I. You thus fail to honour the Son equally as the Father and so are rebuked at John 5:23; ‘That all should honour the Son even as they honour the Father.’
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