
09-01-2007, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BobDylan
I want to focus on this statement here.... Believer, from about the 5th century to about the 14th century, there was no "church" historically outside of the Roman Catholic church. From your perspective and arguments here, you seem to suggest that the only way to be avoid heresy and be saved during this period is to be a part of the Catholic Church! Is this what you are suggesting?
There IS historical evidence of numerous groups that were not roman catholic, who held "heretical teachings" (i.e. sebellianism etc.). Either you are saying that during this period of time, the Roman Catholic church is the only "church" who had the right doctrine and all these other groups were heretics, OR maybe some of these other groups WERE in fact teaching truth while the Catholic church was teaching heresy. Which do you believe? From 600 to 1300 AD, did the Roman Catholic church teach truth or heresy? Ok, what about the Greek Orthadox? Which chruch group from 600AD to 1300AD taught the truth?
Also, this is a response from an earlier post:
Let's start by saying this: the men, whose early writing many trinitarians appeal to, were given the boot as well. For instance, Hippolytus was rejected and led a schismatic movement against Biship Callistus or Rome. Tertullian became a Montanist and the church of his day excommunicated him, Origen was excommunicated by the bishop of Alexandria etc. etc. etc. Which one of the "highly esteemed" trinitarians are we to appeal to in support of what is ecclesiastical doctrine? Actually, if you do a thorough study of history, Sabellius, Noetus, and monarchians were very properous in many areas of the world throughout history. Monarchianism WAS the only church doctrine until around the late 2nd century...
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This subject would be an enormous task to try to type in here. Here is a good link to read. Hopeful you can glean some understand about church history. I just don't have the time to spell it out in here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Christianity
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