Ancient Monarchians and Trinitarians

Originally Posted by BobDylan

Where were the "believers" before Luther? Were they the followers of Roman Catholocism? Were the "believers" the Mary worshippers? Were the "believers" the ones who were infant baptized? Since there was no bible, and the priests gave their own interpretation, who was preaching and believing the real truth? Where were they before Luther?



Who believed God was "triune" in the first two centuries of the church? Justin Martyr? Justin Martyr wasn't even a preacher. All he was was a Greek philosopher and apologist that tried to combine elements of Christianity with Greek philosophy. Where was the doctrine of the trinity fully developed and declared in the first two centuries of the church? If it wasn't there, then who were the believers then and what did they believe? Were they perhaps monarchian? If the first two century believers were monarchian, why isn't that good enough for all the believers throughout history?




Groups of followers of Paul of Samosata, the Paulicians, Sabellians throughout the dark ages. etc. etc. etc.. history bears out that there were oneness people all along!

You need proof, not just words. Until you have something other than one persons opinion there isn't anything worth talking about. All the proof beside perhaps one person that you reference from, all point to the fact that Paulicians were dualist.


History already shows that the Church remained Trinitarian down through the ages, up to the Reformations and down until the Oneness came out of the AOG. I'm not attacking the Oneness doctrine, but I can't help but show you the history. If you don't agree with history, there is nothing I can do about that. Even David Bernard has admitted that the modern day Oneness came from the AOG. Of course, I haven't seen him write where the Oneness church was prior to coming of the AOG, other than name a few individuals in history.