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Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84
what you are failing to understand (on purpose, I might add) is that the Judeo-Christian ethic you talk about, if done by the whole of society, would have the same end as Marx's socialist theories... All Marx wanted was for people to take care of eachother (essentially... there is a little more to it (averting class-warfare))...
at thier core, the Judeo-Christian ethic you talk about and socialist theory are trying to get people to do the same things... You can deny it all you want, but that doesn't change the FACT that they do...
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you miss-represent the facts.
All Marx wanted to do was destroy the social contract and create a new one. One based on principles he felt were greater then the ones that existed at the time.
His new social contract placed humanity at its center as opposed to God/Country/King/Class distinction.
This is the evil of Marxism and the aspects of communism that led to the great abuses of Soviet/Maoist Communism.
It is also the evil of Marxism and the aspects of Socialism as practiced in America by liberals and in Europe by everyone that have driven God out of society. (we call it Secular Progressivism)
These are the things that Marx wanted. These are the things that make Marxism and the two systems that flow from it, namely Communism and Socialism evil and counterfeit.
It is perfectly correct and fine to say that Marx in Angles borrowed from Christian principles in the creation the Humanist Secular Marxism. It is perfectly fine to suggest that where kindness to your fellow man, which is a Christian principle, shows up in the systems that have developed from the writings of Marx.
It is not fine to suggest that there is good in the counterfeit. Again, we return to the counterfeit dollar. Feeding the poor is the "green" of Marxism. However, one would not extol the virtue of the green in the counterfeit hundred dollar bill. One would see that accurate color for what it is, a pernicious evil that does damage to the US economy. The same must be said of the virtue of Marxist ideology as it relates to such things as the rhetoric of feeding the poor. It is not a truth, but a counterfeit for the truth.
You CANNOT say a counterfeit has redeeming value. You MUST return to the system that is the real and honest system and point to its virtue.
Satan is the Angel of light. We do not speak of the virtue of this counterfeit light.
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