Do you hafta go through the pastor?

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Theophilus

Do they have the right to permit or forbid something beyond or short of what is Biblical in principle?

In other words, does a pastor by name's sake have a right to run it his own way or does he have a responsibility to run it God's way?

I could start organization X and call myself a Pastor, because I felt called you know, does this give me scriptural right to run my followers any way I want?

Or worse, any way anti-Christ traditions have always taught me?

Sorry Barb, I'm not trying to put you personally on the spot, but do you see where this kind of thing gets the perpetuating power of man's traditions?

I believe that the Apostles and early church did things radically different than the way 'the church' has learned to do things from systems contrary.

Is the UPCi and the like not a protestant system with a oneness Acts 2:38 band-aid? There is very little difference otherwise. At some point one must do their history to find out why. Where did the protestant system get its roots? It all stems from a harlot that is calling her daughters home.

Hopefully, that which makes this movement different will help us resist the call....no matter the cost.

Theo, you are not putting me on the spot and I hope I can adequately express what I am feeling...

I am sure there are men and women with personal agendas, that being of setting up their own kingdom. It is those folk whom I believe would fit your description of running it their own way.

No, when I speak of forbid and permit, I am speaking of having to discipline because of sin in the camp...not those who make up the rules as they go along.

I am convinced that restoration is God's plan and perfect will. Anyone who would discipline because they think they can is without a clear understanding of the grace of God.

The sitting down or reprimanding of a Saint should be for the healing and restoration of the erring soul...not punishment for punishment sake.

As I see it, this goes beyond man's tradition and is following Scripture leading.